Since the release of destiny titans have been at a major disadvantage against both hunters and warlocks on all fields the only time titans ever had a moment that they can call their own was when hammer of sol first released...Needless to say that was a very brief period of time and ended quickly...Now normally that would be acceptable, however it was unfortunately OVER-NERFED.Ever since the game came out titans have been subjected too unfair nerfing on all their subclasses and have the worst melee and only 1 amazing PVP grenade with NO teleport and just the same jump boost across all 3 subclasses. This nerfing was because hunters and warlocks reported titans constantly...Now while their reports were valid when it came to the original armor of light and Hammer of sol in true bungie fashion the developers were not able to scale the nerf properly and over did it big time.Their is a specific reason why you dont see many titans in crucible and it is because of the problems i have stated above and the issues im going to state below.It does not appeal correctly because of its obscure operation which is fundamentally flawed. "What are you talking about? you have a one hit melee" Easily countered by shotguns. "But you have defender which can buff damage and give shield" Easily countered by blade dancer and nova bomb and gunslinger and storm caller and shot gun melee combo. "But you have sun breaker" Hammer of sol has had all of its qualities over-nerfed...Suncharge is not a solution as it is defeated by the before mentioned supers instantly and is a close range attack once again exposing the titan to an easy death. "But you can jet pack" And YOU can teleport in front of me and shotgun me in my face from above...You can also use teleport to evade. For any hunters and warlocks out there that have been killed by a defender titan with a shotgun in his bubble using armor of light...You know more than anyone else the pain of having to come too your enemy.So you should be able to understand the issue when titans have such a poor melee range and an easily counterable one hit melee and THREE subclasses all of which revolve around a melee with hammer of sol being the exception however you already know why HOS is not ideal when weighed against gunslinger and nova bomb. That pain you felt when we titans shot gunned you in our bubbles...We feel across all our subclasses every time we play crucible against you hunters and warlocks.Please...Guys, if the community would support a REAL reassessment and reworking of the titan class its self then dont you think that would only benefit the game? Dont you think that would make it more engaging? Give it more variety which it desperately needs? Think about it...Take care.