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Bearbeitet von Azure:
9/5/2016 9:06:46 PM
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This obsession over K/D is turning this community toxic.
Recently, a certain Exotic weapon (Universal Remote) has become a topic of debate in these forums. Some people want it nerfed, others want it to stay where it is.
I thought I'd make my own thoughts clear on the subject, so I made [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/212324463?showBanned=0&path=0]this[/url] thread.
Despite the fact that the thread has 8 likes as of me writing this sentence, the majority of the comments seem to be focusing on one of two things:
1) Snipers are OP and that means UR needs nerfing (You guys realise how ridiculous this sounds, right?)
2) OP HAS A LOW K/D AND THAT SOMEHOW RENDERS ALL HIS POINTS INVALID HURR HURR HURR!
Yes, I have a low K/D. Until a few months ago, I sucked in the Crucible. In addition, I rarely ever actually try during my matches. Why? There's no point. Any rewards I get are based on participation, not performance. I don't have an incentive to win, therefor I see little point in trying.
Leaving my recent improvements aside, why the hell should the fact that I have a low K/D in the crucible leave me with basically no respect whatsoever in these forums? Why the hell does it matter that the person saying these things either sucks or is super amazing at Skirmish or some crap?
Almost all I see when I get a new notification is someone either insulting my skill or my intelligence and I don't know how much longer I can take it. I'm getting sick and tired of the ridicule, guys. I paid for this game, I'll play it however I damn well please, and my opinion matters just as much as any one of yours. So get the hell off of your high horse and start treating me with some goddamn respect!
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von Spaceman: 9/8/2016 4:14:37 AMI'm ranked top 1% in caps and neutralizing. I'm number #476 among all Destiny PS4 with objectives. I say -blam!- K/D.
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von Spaceman: 9/8/2016 4:08:31 AMAnonymity on the internet is why people say shit to make you feel bad. Trust me... Most of those creeps have no life, no brain, and no class to begin with. Do what I do, don't link your profile. You can still participate here and best of all you don't have to deal with stat creepers.
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"Turning"
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This community has been toxic since Week 2.
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I haven't bothered getting into K/D debates. I know where to find mine, but I'd rather just let it be. In some games I do well, others bad. It's a coin toss. Plus, the only real time I'm concerned about crucible at all is Iron Banner.. But it's for sweet loot and not competing for K/D.. lol
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291 AntwortenBearbeitet von bilbo t baginzz: 9/7/2016 5:05:09 AMHeres the difference between people wiht a high K/D and people with a Low K/D [b]EDIT: Not all Low K/D and High K/D people think like this just the majority who voice their opinions on these forums.[/b] [quote][b]Universal Remote...[/b] [b]High K/D...[/b] Gets killed by Universal remote "Stop pushing in there guys, make him come outside so he cant use his Uni" [b]Low K/D...[/b] Gets kills by Universal Remote "oh -blam!- me that thing is so OP."... Runs to same spot again "Oh ffs they need to nerf it"[/quote] [quote][b]Snipers...[/b] [b]High K/D...[/b] Gets out sniped "Stop contesting there because they are getting in position first and just picking us off" or "This guy is a beast with the sniper" [b]Low K/D...[/b] Gets out sniped "Snipers so so bloody OP, way to much Aim assist cant wait till they are nerfed"[/quote] You see whats happening here, good players can see they are being out gunned by BETTER players... Bad players are blaming the weapons because they think they are better then they actually are. [b]Its a hard concept to grasp but there is always someone who is better then you.[/b] If someone is complaining about how OP something is and they have a 0.8 K/D... well chances are they get killed by someone farting on their controller, the only reason they see a certain weapon as being OP is because they see it more often then others. [b]No doubt ill be down voted by scrubs who also dont try counter what ive said because they know its true.[/b]
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Bearbeitet von BLWigglyAkA: 9/8/2016 10:58:53 AMGet in some rumble, bro
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Azurephoenix999 is turning this community toxic
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2 AntwortenThough KD means very little, it still holds some value. Usually a 1.5 - 2 KD player will have more knowledge than a 0.5-1 KD player. Not to say your opinion is meaningless but someone with a higher KD will more often than not have more experience than the lower KD player. It's not to say KD means everything because it doesn't and can be very misleading but if it's something someone strives for, you can't be mad at them.
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Put out anything slightly negative in this place and you get it right back, dont feed the wolves...
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1 AntwortenI play for fun. It's just a game.
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I don't care about my kd but seeing that if you go into trials recruitment, it is just spammed with "be this kd or better. No noobs" I just is the worst feeling when just because of a stat you can't play with someone. Now the people with the 500.00 kd won't understand, but the people on my level will.
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1 AntwortenLol, online video games ain't the place to go if your looking for respect. You either get some thick skin and brush it off or go to church.
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A valid opinion. Please forgive my first person perspective, but I work with statistics, trends and projections - It is paramount to include all data in an assumption (that's all we are really debating here isn't it guidelines and assumptions). A [u]truth [/u]from that is consistent in terms of our deductions about the game is fleeting at best. There is a mechanism in play that has to be observed in terms of how you choose to play and how you are measured, none of which are solely controlled by you and are heavily influenced by circumstances beyond your control. In God we trust - all others must bring data. William Edward Deming Hope to see you out there
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Implying the community was never toxic...
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4 AntwortenHad my attention until the old "because I wasn't even trying" excuse came out. Lol. Are we ten?
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8 AntwortenI agree with you with the "show more respect" part, but, check this situation: Player 1(0.5 K/D): [i]Bungie, Shoulder charge is overpowered. I can't do anything to counter it[/i] Player 2(3.4 K/D): [i]Bungie, Shoulder charge is ok, you just have to move around and kill him before he gets to you. The real problem is smoke, we shouldn't lose our radar, sprint and still receive A LOT of damage.[/i] Are you going to trust on player 1 or 2? The player 1 has some skill problems, he can't shot and walk at the same time, he can't jumpshot... That's why he is complaining about ____ ability. The Player 2 on the other hand, he is the true crucible player, he spend most of his time playing control (pubstomping) and he knows what is game breaking or not because of his experience. [spoiler]I'm not saying that those abilities are OP, they're only examples. [/spoiler]
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K/d doesn't mean shit. Half the time I play with side arms and go .00000001. Still been flawless multiple times. K/d is no indicator of skill or success.
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high kd shows how shit u are
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Score per minute. The game is won by points not kills only. Every mode including rumble, the top player doesn't have to have the most kills. Just saying.
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I look at it like this, you're either below average, average, or above average in terms of pvp. It doesn't really matter which one someone is, they all experience the same things in pvp and should have the right to have input on them.
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Dont try get them to respect you. It will make it worse. After all you dont give them their pocket money. Lol.
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I agree. My kd sucks. I have however got over 200 000 kills in destiny across every weapon ever made available to me. This is my first fps. I have had bitchy little squeaky people, some of whom are actually adults dismiss my opinion for this exact reason. Point is to those little nerfy sweat pimples, i generally have more kills than you in more arenas, not just make believe gun fights that make you cry. My point is as valid as any intellectualised justification for losing because ive used the guns more. im no techno geek tryhard talking about gun specs, but the kd/validity statement is as redundant as crying because you died by someone shooting better than you. Oxygen theives cry nerfy werfy......
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Okay but It REALLY isn't that hard to go into crucible and go positive. If you have a negative KD, you probably don't have a firm grasp of balance at all. People with higher KD's have more valid arguments due to "expertise". You're entitled to your opinion yada yada, I just won't take you seriously if you're below 1.0, sorry. You don't try at crucible, so why should I try to hear you out?
