Only class i refuse to play as in PvP is the crutch class that is the hunter. Easiest supers to get kills with. One hit kill with 3-4 shots, OP shield while using BD and a super that can cancel out other supers whiles holding people in place with multiple shots again.

Peregrine greaves, baby

I've played all three classes for a long time, as most hardcore players probably have, and I think it has definitely helped me to understand that none of the abilities are OP. I switch back and forth all week. I do think the Hunter's movement, supers and neutral game are simply superior to the other classes in PVP. My K/D ratio is highest on Hunter, followed by Titan (my main), then Warlock. I don't think the Hunter should be nerfed at all though. I think the other classes little a more in their arsenal to bring them up to the level of the Hunter.

Another good advice: dont play destiny or play another games! Crusible in Destiny is lagging shit, u can change yo router, isp, change yo city or country, u can use portforwarding or put ip of yo console to dmz, but Crusible still will be lagging shit!

Good tip but the frustration bumps up a bit when 1 or more characters doesn't get their "true meaning of war" rewards

So this will keep the laggers out of my games then?

Good advice, I need to do this. I've played as 3 classes in crucible but I haven't fully explored each one, mostly just the titan.

I'll switch to sunbreaker. Is that ok?

I agree with this One week I just got back into the game. Got tired of grinding for dark matter in black ops 3. Even though I only need the knife challenges for it now. So I hop into trials and just get owned hard. Couldn't go flawless, my best that week was 9-1 card. So I decided the best thing to do is to prepare for the next week. I only played pvp and trained with the right people. They showed me a better perk setups for my grasp and party crasher. And kept things postive by not complaining about my kd for certain games or losses when it happened. Best thing to do is to always remain positive, when you get mad you suck more. That's what I observed Overall I hardened up, got better by each day. The more I played, the more I noticed myself finding ways to kill faster and be more efficient. My aim got better, my awareness got better, my choice of gun set ups got wiser. And the best part I kept contact with these good players and just tried to be the best teammate for them as much as possible. When you have a good team anything is possible And then when trials came around this week (thank god for pantheon) I went flawless on Friday and Sunday. I used a Shotgun Btw, Rushing strat worked beautiful. And the best part is I finally got my scarab emblem. The thing I coveted the most. Wasn't easy but I did it! And I'm proud of myself. So listen to op and keep playing pvp. If you want to get good at pvp, your going to have to sacrifice pve time and just focus on your hardening your pvp skills. Get owned by someone because they will teach you lessons. Learn each subclass, don't stick to one. Learning what each can do is a huge advantage. But overall that's my two cents and sorry for the essay lol Edit. Thank you for the love guys. I love to positivity, not hate. Because we have too much of that in this world! And sorry for the bad grammar. Was 3 am when I typed this

I dunno, after playing one class for 2000 hours, I pretty much know what to expect what the other 2 classes can throw at me. I don't get why so many people get frustrated ever since sbmm dropped ive accepted that the game will throw players closer to my skill level thus bring all the games into possible sweaties if you can't crush them in the first 3 minutes.

I'm always gonna rage

Would like to play on my warlock, but i can't find a set of armor that i find good looking for a voidwalker... Fashion>efficiency I'm a hunter so...

I don't think one has to play all 3 classes / sub classes to realize that some are in FACT OP and or under-powered in some regards. With enough game play rather playing 1 class are 3 you see with your own eyes how things work. For example, Supers: Running around while basically invincible throwing around balls of fire instantly killing everything in your path is just slightly OP compared to BD's "Super" which is way too easy to shut down and much harder to execute successfully. It just is. That's just one example there are many more. One doesn't have to play that class to see this over and over again. I've heard some claim Blade Dancer is "hard to kill" as if it somehow has more armor than Warlock / Titan... If this is really true please show me the way! My BD is set at maximum armor and it often feels as if I have basically no armor.. I don't bother to play Night-stalker in PVP (defiantly wont since they screwed shade step) as that sub class is now a joke by comparison. Gun slinger: It's super "Golden Gun" how is it not at a disadvantage? I don't even play GS in PVP and I can see this. You get a MAX 3-4 kills (4 with certain exotic helmet) and you actually have to aim / be precise to get the kills vs. running around tossing balls of fire or electricity for example.. To suggest that ALL classes are somehow perfectly balanced is frankly laughable.