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8/29/2016 3:56:17 AM
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The issue with snipers.
There isn't an issue with the snipers being overused. The issue is that bungie has made them extremely easier to use. I've been playing since the beta. The snipers in Y1 were clunky, slow, mediocre handling and performed like a normal sniper. Most people back then actually had skill and hidden hand wasn't even thought of. Truthfully i'd rather have final round over hidden hand. Atleast the player sniping is skilled and didn't have a sniper with stupid high Aim Assist and hidden hand on top of it. If year one sniping returns i guarantee more skill and less assist will be shown.
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45 AntwortenSnipers need a negative to them. Shotguns have low range, rng bullet spread and slow reload. Fusions have charge time, and some accuracy problems. Snipers however, can be used at any range. Rewards body shots since you can just tap them with a primary after. You can safely get kills in the back of the map all game. And a skilled sniper can kill anyone trying to rush them, at almost any range.
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Bearbeitet von BurgerFredFred: 9/1/2016 12:07:04 AMActually, they're just the same now as they were in year one. The real issue is they keep balancing primary weapons to the point where people feel like they need to ride the meta train in order to actually stand a chance. If they would stop -blam!-ing up primaries, buffed a couple, and brought the grasp class in line, it would probably curb the whole "use nothing but your secondary the entire match" issue.
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Actually since the last few updates in y2 they have Slowed handling and increased zoom .....Soooo
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Bearbeitet von iNaCl: 8/31/2016 11:56:58 PMHitting someone in the toe over some aim assist that don't do anything less your really good or dang scope often Ggs
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1 Antwortenmake it like the halo sniper from halo 3 or 1 problem solved , nope not really because -blam!-ing guys would say" No a sniper kill me that must be nerfed to the ground bungie plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
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3 AntwortenLol final round? No man that seriously broke snipers. *starts trials match* *hears enemy fire 3 rounds* *turns corner gets 1 shot bodied* Lmao, that never happened to me but I remember people complaining about it. XD
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1 AntwortenUhhh, final round took zero skill, this coming from an efrideet final rounder through all of HOW. Hidden hand gives a fractional amount of aim assist (I think I heard between 4 to 9 points) And you act as though it's impossible to miss.
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2 AntwortenThey actually nerfed snipers just before year two started. I think Mtashed did a video on it. From what I recall they reduced the effects of AA and reduced their handling. Those things might be wrong because I haven't seen the video in a while but I'm fairly certain snipers were way easier to use in year one
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von High Charity: 8/31/2016 1:31:52 PMSnipers were far easier in Year 1 than they are now. -Field Scout gave you six shots just in your mag -Special ammo was far more readily available -Your spawned with a ton more ammo (rip to 24 round Praedyths on spawn) -Snipers had far less flinch in Y1 -Snipers had more aim assist (compare the Y1 Longbow with the 1kys) -Final Round -OG Armor Piercing Rounds -Unnerfed Snapshot -Hidden Hand was a thing in HoW. -Increased zoom on Shortgaze, Ambush, and Slr10
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All I see is BK's using shotguns. So yea, stfu.
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1 AntwortenI still think hard scope snipers should be forced out of ads when shot at (even if it triggers only on a headshot) The advantage of snipers is also the defensive utility of snipers RANGE
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Bearbeitet von FLEXX: 8/31/2016 6:10:58 AMDid this guy really just say he rather have final round over hidden hand??
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5 AntwortenBearbeitet von JonnyBX: 8/30/2016 10:14:53 AMI use a sniper a lot and I don't hard scope, for one I always miss and it's boring, I just can't sit looking into a doorway for 5 mins. I like to use mine in a one on one or when I'm being rushed or even shot at. It's too easy for hardscopers to pick you off. They can have a 0.3 KD and you can slide or jump round a corner and he'll either double body you or dome you so easily but catch them off guard and you can drop them with ease. When I'm being shot while I'm sniping I'll have a quick pop shot as I'm moving away hoping for a body shot to make them back off and 90% of the time the flinch actually makes me land a headshot, it's ridiculous. Either make all snipers bolt action and see how many players never use one again or buff all primary damage. They should not be able to take a couple of bursts and run away.
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1 AntwortenHow do people use snipers? Do you go afc and they get kills for you?
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Snipers were easier in year 1
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1 AntwortenIn the beta, primaries were primaries and secondaries were secondaries, not the other way around
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You tell me if snipers were clunky in year 1.
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I was just as good with snipers in Year 1 as I am now. Personally I haven't noticed any difference at all.
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snipers have never really changed, primaries are just much worse now than year 1
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von Ace: 8/30/2016 5:56:36 PMnot even, final round was hella worse. it's just there were so many sniper counters in y1, meanwhile fast forward to y2 and all the counters (thorn, tlw, hawkmoon, pulse rifles, mida, even doctrine) have been nerfed into the ground. not to mention shotguns probably had 3 times the range and blink was godly back then.
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1 AntwortenSomehow i was a much better Sniper than i am Now ...
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4 AntwortenThere is no mechanic that make them one bit challenging...aim shoot kill....very little stagger, they aim fast, scope in fast, switch weapons fast, do 167 to 181 damage on body shot lol, no sway, no descope, etc....they are as easy to use at long range as well as mid range...
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14 AntwortenThe problem is how snipers are staggered in this game. I've got a hawksaw and a full auto Suros dis-47 both with HCR's that I use and I can put BURSTS into a snipers face and still get Dome'd while strafing! A snipers reticle moves strait up and then strait down and auto corrects from the "flinch". This happens way to often. It should move to the left and right depending on where you get shot from. In no way should someone be able to get a precision shot off after being mauled in the face with any weapon. It's broken AF and needs to be addressed!
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[/quote]Truthfully i'd rather have final round over hidden hand. Atleast the player sniping is skilled.[/quote] I know what you mean, hearing those snipers go off at the start of every trials games...takes so much skill lol
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As someone who ran Universal Remote/Purifier in Year 1, the transition to using a sniper was no struggle what so ever. My first game I got like maybe 5-10 headshots with a sniper.
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5 Antwortenits not that just the insane body shot damage they do.non precision hits are too rewarding for precision based weapons.
