I need someone to explain to me why they like this meta so much. All i ever see when i go into a game solo is my team sitting in the back of their spawn, no one pushes, no one engages, no one even so much as equips a primary anymore and ventures out into the battlefield to kick some guardian butt! 3s go to the time limit, 6s is basically who can body shot with a sniper the best. It doesn't even matter what map it is on, could be burning shrine in clash and everyone is still sitting in the back of the map with their tail between their legs. if you are lucky enough to get pushed you won't even have a good gun fight, a shotgun will just mow you down, or you will be put to rest by a sniper who ate half of your clip. Primaries are the weakest they have ever been. i very much dislike the current state of pvp and i've played through every meta to date, this being the worst, and the only one I actually can't stand. I'm really just curious as to why you either like, or dislike the current state of pvp as well as what your first meta was, and what you feel needs to change going into Rise of Iron. If you care for my extended take on the matter: [spoiler]This is the slowest meta to date and caters to the most pathetic pace of play in any fps i have ever played. you always die from a body shot to a sniper or a janitor on the other team because you got body shot. All pulse rifles are a 3 shot burst which makes no sense (if you are 2 bursting someone has low armor or you have a perk which increases damage), hand cannons which require you to actually aim don't even guarantee damage because of bloom. I would say the game requires some skill, but many people say it doesn't. So instead i'll use the word: finesse. Being good at this game requires some finesse, which this meta completely obliterates.[/spoiler] Edit #1: TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つつ ◕_◕ ༽つ. keep the discussion going, i'm enjoying all the responses. it's interesting to see why some of you like the meta and why some of you dislike the meta. Clearly depends on the person and how you like to play, also depends on how casual or hardcore you are. Matchmaking also seems to take a part in some of the gameplay aspect and what weapons you see when you play. if you have any ideas for the future of weapon and class balance please do share! i'm off to sleep! Edit #2: i'm awake, we are trending i guess! happy friday! It seems people are still either enjoying or disliking the current state of pvp, but they all agree that high impact pulses and high impact autos could use some love, and that we have the most variety yet! Keep the discussion going! it's all very civil! Edit #3: You all have me using my old year one gear and old meta primaries which under perform in the current meta. the nostalgia is flowing amongst us! Edit #4: so much awesome in this post, all of you have shared some great opinions and ideas, and that really helps me grasp why some people either like or dislike this meta. General overview is people are happy with the variety, but feel as though primary weapons need a buff to keep up with special weapons.