For those of you reading this and not understanding what he is saying let me sum it up this way: Destiny is an attempt by Bungie at a looter shooter, but it is not a true RPG. The "builds" in Destiny are very basic and don't have a lot of diversity. Since Destiny is a shooter and PVP is a big part of shooters, a lot of things have to be equalized in order for some level of balance to be maintained. For this reason, all three classes have essentially the same Armor, Recovery and Agility with the differences intended to be minor. I remember when I first started playing Destiny I was disappointed to find out that my Titan I started playing with didn't have higher armor than anyone else in the Crucible and was, in fact, NOT A TANK. Each class has a particular "home base" and you have six choices in your skill tree to adjust your home base. The "home base" for Titans is Armor. No matter what Titans pick in the skill tree, they will have a good Armor value but they have to choose between Recovery and Agility. The "home base" for Warlocks is Recovery. No matter what Warlocks pick, they will have a good Recovery value but they have to choose between Armor and Agility. Hunters "home base" is Agility. No matter what Hunters pick, they will always have a good Agility value and have to choose between Armor and Recovery. Players are essentially supposed to choose their weakness and adjust their playstyle to that weakness. As a Titan, I choose recovery as my weak stat and try to disengage and retreat from engagements I'm already losing. As a Warlock, I try to spec armor and just accept that my agility will be lower. As a Hunter, I spec for armor and agility and do the same as my Titan. The closest thing to a "tank" in Destiny is a Sunsinger Warlock wearing the appropriate Solar armor and the Ram. No Titan build comes close to this level of armor. The REAL complaint is that people don't like that Titans are able to take advantage of a hidden stat in Destiny.........Speed. Contrary to popular belief, Agility and Speed are not the same thing. Titans are fast, but they are not agile, no matter what perk they choose in their skill tree. Hunters, on the other hand, are the most agile creatures in Destiny and there is no argument you can make that will change this fact.

If a nightstalker can make a lot of orbs and someone has that perk to regenerate health on orb pick-up then that means that nightstalkers are healers.

I'm certain Destiny is the only game I which I've played where a community has come together and decided spamming A to jump fast is OP.... Jumping... Is over powered in this game according to quite a few geniuses.... Jumping..... Mario will be added as a class in Destiny 2

Juggernaut, force barrier, blessing/armor of light, and max armor which makes all the difference in TTK (with an addition of high recovery for Titans). They are tanks, not in a normal sense though.

What the -blam!- is your point?

Titans are not "traditional" tanks. I will give you that one 110% no argument here. However, line up the three different classes. Hunters are definitely not the tankiest. Small and agile and super squishy. Sure Warlocks can have decent armor, they have health regen, and can bring themselves back from the dead. Now Titans. Just looks alone say, "Oh yes these guys are tanks." Big, generally bulky armor. The ability to throw up a defensive shield with even more armor. The ability to gain a shield just from running a few feet. They have the most ways to create a protective shield around themselves. The list goes on and on. They are the ultimate defensive character in the game. And they are by many standards the "Tanks of Destiny." Again, they aren't the traditional set of tanks, but they are the closest thing we have in this game.

Titan circle-jerk posts like this are always the funniest. Everyone except idiot titan mains like brave cole know these guys are wrong and explain it and every time brave cole walks away thinking he won. So cute.

I've always said Titans shouldn't have the most armor and be the fastest class. I've never said they are tanks though. I think increased control should have an armor penalty like blink and recovery. That way Titans can still move fast but they'll be more vulnerable to things like tripmines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um1GmhM8rcA explains the op class note i just came across this video

[quote]"But Titans are tanks! They can max out their armor!" And? It barely makes a difference.[/quote] Why do you think they banned max armor in sweats? That shit is absolutely cancerous in the hands of a good titan. Especially with the extra chest piece armor buff as well....good luck outgunning a titan like Frostbolt or Gabriel when they can easily survive 1-2 more shots than you and get across the map before you can get to point B (So yes, it makes a hell of a difference). [quote]In the Crucible, do you engage Titans differently because of their high armor? No. You're going to deal with them the same way you would any other class, because when it comes to HP, the classes are virtually the same.[/quote] Yea, I do engage them differently, because they are [b]not[/b] the same. Max armor titans are [b]max armor[/b] titans (take notice of the "max armor"). Unless you want to lose a gunfight where you both did [b]exactly[/b] the same damage to each other, I suggest you always find a way to catch them off guard/get the first shot off, or you'll get fisted every time.

Yes titans are tanks. They have higher armor, more health regen and defensive abilities galore.

Hmmm... so titans aren't tanks they just have the most armor in the game and can achieve max armor way easier then other classes. They have juggernaut, force barrier, health regen galore, ward of dawn, armor of light etc etc. While gunslingers have... oh ya ABSOLUTELY NO HEALTH REGEN OR DAMAGE TANKING ABILITIES AT ALL. But totally titans aren't tanks because logic..

Something is wrong when you can spec for max armor and agility and still be the fastest player.

Thankfully there are no tanks in the same way there are no healers in Destiny. That would just make raids a lot more rigid and repetitive. Destiny doesn't have that classic trinity where 1 tank holds aggro + 1 healer takes care of the tanker (and some DPSs at random) + everyone else DPSing. Titans, as well other classes, may mitigate damage in their own way but that's it. There's no taunt ability nor specific guardian that has extra health/shield. The closest thing to a tanker/healer combo in one guardian, but still far to be taken as a classic tank example, is the Aegis shield holder.