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7/3/2016 4:22:03 AM
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Paying Kids Not To Kill

[quote]Richmond, California (CNN)The four teens kick back and talk openly with their mentor. They discuss job opportunities, the need for support and the possibility of a trip out of state. They're relaxing in the lobby of a city agency, one outfitted with a couch and wing chairs to make it feel homey. Anything to provide relief from the hard streets of Richmond, California, once known as one of the most violent cities in America. "What can I do better?" the mentor, Kevin Yarbrough, asks. "Help us get out of Richmond and stuff," one teen mumbles. "Get us far away." The conversation sounds like one any mentor might have with a group of inner-city teens in America. But this is no ordinary group. The mentor is an ex-con working for the city. The teens are suspected of the worst types of crimes but haven't faced prosecution, for lack of evidence. The mentor's job: Get them to put down their guns, stop their violent ways and transform their lives beyond the streets. "They're babies growing up in a war zone," says DeVone Boggan. "But the police would tell you they're killers. 'Serial killer' is what a police officer might call some of these young men, because of what they're suspected of doing." Boggan helped found the innovative city agency, the Office of Neighborhood Safety or ONS, in the fall of 2007 after gun violence spiraled out of control in Richmond, a city of about 100,000 just north of Berkeley. Fueled by gang violence, neighborhood rivalries and large-scale unemployment among black youth, the violence led to 47 homicides in Richmond in 2007 -- a record for the city and a rate more than eight times the national average. A drastic approach was needed to turn the tide. There was so much violence, the city even considered bringing in the National Guard to restore calm. The next year, Boggan saw the killings drop to 27 -- a 40% decline -- as he began his strategy of hiring reformed ex-cons and sending them into the most violent neighborhoods to keep the peace. But those gains were followed in 2009 by another spike of 47 killings. They had put too much emphasis on "hot spots" and not enough on individuals. "We learned that focusing on hot spots [is] important, but they're not more important than hot people," Boggan says. "Why? Because hot people make hot spots." The city has experienced a 76% reduction in gun homicides since the fellowship began in 2009, the agency says. The program can't take all of the credit for the reduced crime, Boggan says; police work and an improved economy also play a part. But he adds, "I would give the credit to the young men. When you actually focus on the very people involved in gun violence, I think you can't argue that they're not contributing to the safer environment happening in this city." Boggan recently stepped down as ONS director to form a nonprofit organization called Advance Peace. He remains contracted with the city of Richmond to help advise the office but will also work with other cities to build pilot programs similar to the one started here. His life mission is to provide hope to troubled youth to "change the reality ... of this epidemic facing our nation. "America's gun violence," he says, "is a national disgrace. We should be ashamed of ourselves." [/quote] [url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/19/health/cash-for-criminals-richmond-california/]See more to finish reading the lengthy article.[/url] Paying known criminals to not do illegal activities.

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  • [quote]paying criminals to not commit crimes [/quote] This isn't accurate [quote]paying ex-cons to mentor high risk teens to prevent them from becoming criminals[/quote] This is what is taking place and is actually a smart way to prevent kids from becoming criminals. There is so much more to what is actually going on here. They aren't just paying criminals to behave. They are paying these ex-cons to g into these areas to hopefully prevent young people from becoming criminals. Who would better to do this? Somebody from am outside area who knows nothing of the lifestyle trying to be prevented? I think not. They are using ex-cons because they understand the lifestyle trying to be precented and the targeted groups are more likely to listen to them vs someone who has no idea what it is like to live in said circumstances.

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  • Bearbeitet von ReignofSpartain: 7/4/2016 7:57:32 AM
    Thanks for link of the full report While you chose to cut out bits and pieces from the article, i chose to paste a more complete section that has no edited paragraphs [quote]The San Francisco Bay Area city of Richmond, population 108,000, saw a record 47 gun homicides in 2007. In response, the city started hiring ex-cons and sending them into the worst neighborhoods. The next year, the killings fell to 27 but then spiked again to 47 in 2009. This time, the city invited some of the most hardened youth into a fellowship, where they would be mentored by ex-cons and offered a cash stipend. Police were left out of the picture. By 2014, gun homicides had fallen to 11, although they were back up to 21 last year after a staffing cut. Of the 68 youths who've been through the program, 94% are alive, and 79% have not been suspected of a new gun crime. And so Operation Peacemaker was born. Loosely based on an academic fellowship, the ONS program invites some of the most hardened youth into the fold: often teenage boys suspected of violent crimes but whom authorities don't have enough evidence to charge criminally. These fellows must pledge to put their guns away for a more peaceful life. They are hooked up with mentors -- the reformed criminals-turned-city workers -- who offer advice, guidance and support to get jobs. If the fellows show good behavior after six months, they can earn a stipend of up to $1,000 a month. Since the fellowship started, the city has seen dramatic results, including a low of 11 gun homicides in 2014 -- the fewest number of people killed in Richmond in four decades.[/quote] Also for anyone who wants the full story context, its comparing georgia and califorina way of figuring out a way to curb crime. According to the article the california way is showing positive results overall The other way it compares is georgia(apparently doing little to curb crime).This sums up the georgia way [quote]Law enforcement delivered a stern message: Clean up or we're coming after you. And not only will we come after you, we'll go after your friends and anyone who knows what you're doing[/quote] If you are too lazy to read both the articles atleast read the story highlights comparing the richmond way and the georgia way [b]so feel free to look at the users below too lazy to read and remeber them as uninformed lazy users. SHAME SHAME SHAME[/b]

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  • Sounds like an easier solution would've been to just glass Richmond.

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  • Bearbeitet von Tsukuyomi Zero: 7/4/2016 3:23:45 PM
    [quote]Paying known criminals to not do illegal activities.[/quote] Wow, that's dumbing it down quite a lot. Re ha bi li ta ti on > Rehabilitation

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  • Well seeing as how we've done shit for the inner cities and just watched them as they became criminal hotspots. That is of course, until it was so bad we started rounding them up by the hundred thousand and ignoring the root causes of it all. Even nowadays all I've seen is "Ghetto trash". "Why do they need our help?" "They got themselves into this mess" "Our tax dollars shouldn't go to reforming criminals, but our parks need a tune up". We might as well just send squads in to euthanize these areas with some of the apathetic feelings I've seen people have. What happened to helping your fellow man? When you've got 12 people living in a dingy apartment in a half broken building with rising rent, surrounded by poor education and half assed help with no sign of the ability to move up, why should anyone be surprised when young people turn to the people they see not living a terrible life? The gangsters may be "morally" deplorable to you. But to some kids, they're family, and more importantly, often respected and have a lot of what is consider strong. Women, money, fashion. Is paying them directly to [i]not commit crime[/i] not the best option? No it probably isn't. The money would be better spent on an investment in their futures and families future. One that isn't in a 6x8 metal and concrete hell that breeds and festers the undesirable traits that got them locked up in the first place. I don't know what the answer is, but blaming these kids and turning America into a prison farm isn't it. If you do the crime, you should do the time. But why don't we do anything to stop the root causes of the crime? Instead of reacting after? [i]That's what's wrong with the world. It's 95/5 reactionary, when it should be more proactive[/i]

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  • So it's better if my tax dollars go toward hush money for criminals rather than repairing roads and beautification projects?

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  • Yup.

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  • I haven't committed any crimes. Where's my $$$?

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    • [quote]"America's gun violence," he says, "is a national disgrace. We should be ashamed of ourselves."[/quote] While you're over there being self-flagellating, I'll be over here enjoying my individuality and freedom from collective identity. Also, the very concept of state-sanctioned rehabilitation for criminals is absurd. They're being "treated," using tax dollars supplied by their victims. That's sick, and it's not just.

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    • This could only come to a liberal.

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