I don't understand. It seems as though every forum topic is "Nerf this. Nerf that" It's kinda getting irritating seeing nerf posts after nerf posts. It's a game (unbalanced yes, but name an fps that doesn't have imbalance?) And should be treated as such, not a way of life. If a battle doesn't go your way, accept that you just lost to someone who was either better than you, or just played better than you did during that one encounter. Nerfing everything has literally turned this game into a slow, boring special weapon fest to the point that now it's abilities that people are calling for nerfs on. It's ridiculous. Now the new thing seems to be shoulder charge. That has literally stayed the same way since launch without a single word associated with it other than something fun to use and annoying to be killed by, but never OP. Now that everything is slow as shit, primaries suck, and special ammo isn't the easiest to hold onto, now it's abilities that needs the nerf hammer next? Get a grip. Everything that you lose to isn't broken. Broken things in destiny's past? Pocket infinity Vex Maybe Felwinters (MAYBE but only in the case of shot package) Suros (Vanilla, also questionable) Thorn TLW (Only cause of ADS glitch) Sunbreaker at ttk launch Bladedancer in y1 maybe? Blink was a little stupid in y1 too. And some of those are questionable too. Everything else has literally been fine. The nerf posts have to stop. As irritating as getting crossed mapped by a thorn was, crucible was fast paced and it was actually fun. How bout we start buffing things..? Edit: Spelling Edit 2: I'm seeing alot of replies about hit detection (or lack thereof), lagging, red bars that hit you and you can't hit them, dying through walls and what not. Yes those all contribute to the horrible experience that is Destiny pvp right now, but that's not what I'm referring to. My post is directed towards those that claim that everything that killed them is obviously better than what they have and should be brought to the ground, rather than bringing other options up to speed. Yes I believe primaries are extremely weak (Except scouts. And HC's are too inconsistent), I think all need buffs, whether that be to damage, range, or to the registration of bullets. But what I am saying is that this constant cycle of Dying>run to forums>spend 15 min typing a great Wall of China in text about how OP something is (especially when it's not) has completely changed the way the game is played. Completely. This game is no longer a moderately fast paced shooter similar to a Halo-type gameplay. It's slow. It's hardscope-filled because primaries are shooting pellets instead of bullets, and special ammo is thin so people camp with their snipers and wait for more special to spawn. Primaries are last resort guns now. [b][u]Primaries[/u][/b] This is only my personal opinion obviously but the game is starting to become very boring. And with each update I feel as though my guardians just get weaker and weaker. Yes I know. For god's sake I'm aware the netcode, the lack of dedicated servers, and hit detection in this game is an absolute atrocity. I'm talking about when you lose to something, it doesn't make it overpowered. It means you lost. That's that. Figure out the problem and adapt. It's like counterplay is some sort of ancient lost art that's unable to be grasped by anyone that plays Destiny (With the way the forums look atleast) [spoiler]Dammit. I wrote my own great Wall of China... not that it'll help but here and there I do make a rant post lol. Forgive me.[/spoiler]