If you think shoulder charge is op, go play a different game.
Striker is the only class with a 1hk ability, BUT
-Nightstalkers are the only ones with an evade that cancels tracking
-Sunsingers are the only ones who can self resurrect
-Defenders are the only ones with a grenade that cancels abilities
-Bladedancers are the only ones with built-in quickdraw
I could go on, but you get the point.
Every class is unique. [u]That's why we have so many subclasses.[/u]
If you die from a shoulder charge, you got outplayed.
Adapt to it, or go play as a Striker.
The End
[spoiler]Before you check my stats and see what class I main, I play all three equally. I'm not defending my "crutch." I'm defending the game I love to play. Please don't ruin it for everybody by being a crybaby.[/spoiler]
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Can't really count the blade dancer one because that perk is on guns too. And it's not as good as self res or mini tether from defenders. We can go invis but so can night stalker. We ARE the only ones that can extend our super duration with kills though
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4 AntwortenShoulder charge either needs a cool down or exotic armor for it to one hit. That tracking is ridiculous
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Backstab is 1hk
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Shoulder charge needs to be left alone. I only play as a hunter. Don't and never plan on playing as anything else because of the stronger neutral game. Shoulder charging looks easy but from what my friend, who mains a Titan tells me, and I believe him. It's not. It's a skill. Like sniping and shotgun warrioring. Takes skill to pull it off over and over like that. In short don't nerf a Titan who barely has a great neutral game to begin with! When I get shoulder charged I only blame myself for not hearing it coming or for not being aware of my surroundings
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I kill more guys trying to shoulder charge me than they kill me. People try to over use it or rely on it too much. I think all my characters have reduced arc incoming anyway so even if they hit me they get shotgunned and I survive. Do people really think it's OP?
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Are people still on this? It's nowhere near OP anymore, guys.
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5 AntwortenYou're logic is irrelevant and stupid. Yeah, y'all are the only ones with a 1 hit melee, but the fact that y'all can spam that every 3-5 seconds back to back with no cooldown, as well as your 1 hit melee having pretty ridiculous tracking, makes it op. I'm not saying it needs to be nerfed to shit, I'm just saying it needs a cool down just like every other evasive maneuver got theirs, especially since Strikers can get kills with theirs. Also, the tracking needs to be reduced, it's a melee.
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11 AntwortenNo it's OP. I've mained a striker titan since the beta and have thought both shoulder charge and juggernaut were ridiculous from the time I unlocked their nodes. They are crutch abilities and they shrink he skill gap of the game. Crutch abilities and easy one hit kills is why this isn't a competitive game.
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The only place I've seen more emotionally damaged adults on the spectrum is on /mlp/ and even then those bozos don't complain as much as you all do.
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They all have their abilities, but not all of these even out with each other
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14 AntwortenYeah but dude, storm grip overload is sometimes inexplicably a one hit melee, you can't argue that that's balanced. Many a time I've wiped the other two members of a trials team with full health remaining only to get one punched by a storm grip. Strikers have two one hit melees; the most broken grenade (lightnings) that exist in the game at the moment (their cone and range is ridiculous;) they have potentially maximum armour and maintain their status as the most mobile class in the game. Striker's aren't broken, they're completely bullshit!
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Warlocks can one shot hit too
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Self rez is the only one in a super skill tree...
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1 AntwortenI see what your saying but people call it OP because it's better than the other special unique abilities and it wouldn't be but Bungie doesn't quite understand balance just yet. But we will get there
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But for some reason i get the feeling you cried nerf for the fireblots. Anyhow i do agree with you but what im saying is nerfs leading to something else being "OP". I fear the day when everything quickdraw gets nerf and then the game would be beyond unplayable (Its not even in a good state right now. year 1 it was cancer BUT FUN. year 2 just cancer with aids on the side.)
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27 AntwortenNo other class has a damage dealing ability without a cool down.
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Yup and tbh id rather have a shadestep over SC any day.
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The problem with it is people don't expect in around the corner. They're just like "someone's behind this corner! Let's fight in GLORIOUS CO-" *shoukder charged* it'd be fine if it didn't have tracking and if it slowed down your corner turn speed. (Not actual speed but you turn corners much slower). Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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You guys act like you can't run from or shoot the guy who's sprinting at you.
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65 AntwortenBearbeitet von AXELXu7: 6/25/2016 1:53:50 AMI'm sorry, but your logic is shit. The shoulder charge is a one-hit kill that doesn't require ammo, doesn't have use a melee charge, boosts your speed, homes onto its target, can come from around any corner, and with certain perks/exotics can replenish health, and all this in a game with tiny maps coming from the single most mobile class in the game. While it may take skill and practice to master the aim assist relating to it, and go 23 kills without firing a single shot, there isn't another class in the game that can do it, and there are no downsides for playing this way. Any noob can strap on a twilight garrison and break even K/D-wise with a shoulder charge supplementing a shotgun build, but other classes take some actual skill to use. Hitting people with hammers is hard, getting a blinding titan bubble into a group of unaware foes is hard, pinning your enemy down with solar grenades before your radiance runs out is hard, planning out a blade-dance is hard, waiting for a group of people to form to drop a nova bomb or a Fist of Havoc is hard, hitting a triple with the golden gun is hard, staying alive during a stormtrance is hard, hitting three folks with a void-anchor is hard...Running three feet and pushing RB on the next person you round a corner on? -blam!-ing cake. I could pad my stats running the current meta and striker, but I don't. I use my favorites, I use what looks cool, I don't try to make like the meta is the hardest to use and needs to be buffed. There's a reason people use Strikers and Conspiracy theory, and it isn't because they're the favorites. It's because this community loves to abuse. You're the wifebeaters of the gamer world. You're the people who justify, excuse, and deliberate on how you can get away with your heinous shit. You wouldn't defend it like your own personal alamo if you didn't know it was wrong. So go rub your hands together, and swill another beer you lowlife puddle of bear-bile. Batman's a coming. I hope you still feel like a man when he breaks your goddamned jaw. Upvotes and replies for anyone with great debating skill. Muting and reports for underhanded shltminglers with low english scores and poor reading comprehension.
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1 AntwortenActually bladedancers with backstabbing one hit plus with the new ophidian aspects for warlocks they will have QuickDraw
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No melee cooldown makes it op. I recently have come back to destiny and people be running around the map with shottys shoulder charging dudes alot. Seems like fun to do that but only for one person, the attacker.
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-Voidwalkers, when properly built, have an unlimited supply of grenades under the effect of Catapult -Sunbreakers can create AoE fields as an additional effect of their melee and super -Stormcallers have (I think) the longest-lasting damage super with Transcendence -Gunslingers have the only precision-capable melee
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[quote] -Bladedancers are the only ones with quickdraw [/quote] Yeah, bud... Try 3 nodes for invisibility... Slingers ain't got a way to cloak besides a Stalker's invisibility smoke bomb; and as I just said, Stalkers only have the one smoke bomb. You're welcome.
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I agree with you but blade dancer hunters can one shot melee. With backstabbing and it's glitchy ways, it will one hit.