I think the crucible is fine. All you need is a Doctrine of Passing, (soon to be nerfed) and a sniper rifle.

You're one person... nobody cares if "you are done". Find a different hobby and quit whining.

Just get better. Once you're a top crucible player like me the you can win with anything

Bungie should change their motto from "become legend" to "become balanced" or better yet "get nerfed"

Funny part is everyone "white-knighting" the Crucible PvP are mostly the ones Bungie relies on when they nerf anything; -shotgun package -fusion rifles -sniper rifles -supers -nades Yet they never go ahead and say "hey this sh*t is legitimately broken and has been since it's release into the game and has seen little to no positive development" and typical culprits are matchmaking and lag in ToO. People will continue to go "oh yea whatever the game is working as intended" and that I find ironic because there are dozens of times the game hasn't worked as intended and no one complains until its "fixed" [just like the recent rocket launcher and clown cartridge fiasco]. The first thing to the "naysayers" is that lag exists in this game; whether YOU DO NOT experience it, it negates the fact that IT EXISTS. Likewise it tends to be more of a server-side issue often times with how companies run these servers. If anyone players MMO's there are other companies out there that explain the dynamics of how hardware and server types generate stress on the hardware and result in experienced lag by the user. It's also why matches don't have as many people in Destiny but other FPS games had little issue utilizing matches with 5x to 15x the player size than Destiny. While there is a connection element to lag as well and also an aspect of intention [because it happens in Iron Banner more often than not with the intentional lag] hardware on Bungie's end and tools utilized to detect lag-switching is their responsibility. Thus the "I experienced nothing and felt fine" is like climate naysayers saying "it was the coldest winter in years how is it possible the planet is undergoing warming with cold winters" type of question: your personal experience and view doesn't reflect the massive visual recordings that people post just on a youtube of lagswitchers let alone the data out there of people showing how to lag switch. Matchmaking is also ridiculously not a finished product and this is more visible in Iron Banner where rather than making the code limit matches of 4 fireteams and more to other fireteams of 4 and more it still gives preference to individual skill level and relies on everyone on a team using a headset even if they're not on a fireteam and ignores clans that have played with each other versus players just grouped up for a singular event. This is a problem that has always plagued EVERY FPS nearly and the fact that Destiny doesn't seem to even have a good code for something as basic as fireteam matchmaking is pretty noobish on the developer part because games from 10 years ago had this issue so not anticipating a problem for this game genre that old is pretty bad planning from the get-go. And for those who continue to insist that Crucible and PvP is working as intended, the only problem that no one can still raise a viable argument about why PvP is failing is simply it's still fudging and will continue to fudge with PvE because even though the 2 DO NOT work the same way they are treated THE SAME WAY which is just hysterically stupid and dumb of a strategy. Do I need to go over player decline, decreased metacritic scores, viewer scores, critic reviews, increased player complaint, loss of player retention or any other actual data to paint the view that Destiny has issues and the naysayers, white-knighters and Bungie itself are helping to make this issue grow. And for the record the difference between a "critical view" and a "whiner" is that one actually offers critical advice for the improvement of a product while the latter just makes an emotional, subjective jest and too often the community that constantly agrees and defends Bungie groups both on the same table without really sorting out what can actually be useful to their product and it's advancement. That part is the shame and sad thing about Destiny as a product and Bungie as a studio and don't forget that the biggest so-called whine when Destiny came out was "that's it?" for the content because really, we all wondered why it was one and done soo fast. ...now come the white-knight responses on PvP/Crucible LOL!

I feel like almost nothing has changed after the patch, is it just me?

Grow up its a game

I feel the same. I have gone through fun load outs too and it's just not that fun when you have to carry. I find that I only play now when my friends are on because the game punishes you for being good at the crucible. I'm not the best but I'm certainly above average. I find that when my friends are on (who are not that great at crucible) I have the best time because when we go into a control match or something we will face ppl more there skill level than mine and let me tell you it feels so good to not have a relaxing crucible experience. It feels like year 1 crucible. If I'm by myself it's either to solo nightfall or rumble cuz any team based game you just get fücked. other alternative is overwatch. It's such a relaxing game to me.