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6/14/2016 1:20:34 AM
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The *New* Way Bungie Changes Things, and How It's Fundamentally Wrong
So, I just read the subclass and weapon changes. I won't be ranting about those changes. Instead, I'd like to draw special attention to a sentence in the paragraph about sunsingers.
"Sunsingers, while not out performing other classes, are still creating frustrating encounters."
Basically, this literally translates into "Sunsingers are not more powerful than other classes, but are obnoxious to fight against."
This ideal that brings upon the downfall of firebolts is fundamentally flawed. Essentially, they are changing the balance of the class not based upon the actual balance of the class in relation to others, but based on how obnoxious they are. This philosophy is so flawed I can't even begin to explain why. Please help me out here.
Let me give you an example:
"The Fourth Horseman, while not out performing other guns, is still creating frustrating encounters."
This philosophy is quite literally, "Something is not overpowered, but it is obnoxious. Therefore, it should get nerfed."
Think of how flawed this is. Imagine the endless balance patches and changes that will result not from something being overpowered, but from something being obnoxious. Think about that.
Yeah, I'm a sunsinger. Yeah, I'm pissed about the changes. Not becuase I don't think they should be nerfed. I'm simply upset at the reasoning they give. It's a pathetic excuse and opens the door for more things to be changed with the same excuse. It's upsetting, and we should be careful about this sort of thing moving forward.
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I wrote a post about this in feedback. I don't mind balances backed up by evidence but doing stuff because garbage players get "frustrated" is a really bad way ro go about things. It screams "we cater to the lowest denominator"
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Nerfs are slowing the Crucible down
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20 AntwortenSunsingers needed a nerf. And it's about 2 years to late. I main a hunter, I'm not bitching about the MAJOR nerfs they got, when hunters were pretty much balanced anyways. Besides shade step, that needed to be nerfed. There should never be a grenade that takes you out of a fight for 13 seconds in a FPS. Period. And I'm glad bungie finally realized this.
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This change was 100% brought about by Trials of Osiris salt. That's it.
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It's not great but people are bitching about having to play against them. Nerf.
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There are a lot of cheap ways to get killed in this game, fire bolt burn out, 'wombo combo', hawk moon, any super etc etc. I'm glad they are addressing some of them. The more level the playing field the better.
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You're reading that literally. They were obnoxious to deal with, how is that even arguable? Throw an orb, it scans the room, everyone gets lit on fcking fire lmao. Between that and flame shield proccing on HIT, and the possibility of a shotgun blast.. very obnoxious.
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Bungie gives into children that wine too much. this game should have been rated m for mature and had more adult situation. It feels more and more like a kids game with participation trophies. Every update it gets worse. They pretty much admit sunsingers are balanced but we're nerf ing them bc kids complain about it
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Every nerf they have done besides the thorn, mythoclass and maybe suros has been purely based on annoyance and people complaining. Personally I think this update helps prove that we need a pvp and pve set of rules for the game. Although I will add I welcome an update that really forces us to change how we play.
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They just made the Sunsingers a better support subclass for warlocks
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This is not new though, this is how things have been since day 1. They're just more forthright about the idiocy these days.
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2 AntwortenI have a pair of Asics that I wear for all my runs . They are extremely comfortable and I enjoy using them. Someone is now telling me to change them because they prefer that I use a Nike product. Well I'm not a Nike guy.
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Bearbeitet von Garfield Peanut Butter!: 6/14/2016 1:24:18 PMvoid walkers are pretty obnoxious since they can one hit kill you with their super, we should nerf them
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Even the changes are rng based
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1 AntwortenOh you took me out of the game for 10 seconds because you hit me with a grenade Oh you won that close range encounter because you meleed me once [b]The Sunslinger changes are completely justified[/b]
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If they want to makes changes based on frustration I can think of many things that were more frustrating. First of which would be the huge lack of content in year 2. Lack of activities needs a huge nerf
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Kind of reminds me of the Mida nerf. The justification for that was that it was 'popular,' not that they thought it was OP, so they removed HCR to make it less effective in PvE... err?...What....? I might have been one of the only people using it in PvE but it was pretty useful. Now....mmm...
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"Are obnoxious to fight against" is code for "people cried too much on the forums". Kind of like you, right now. Be careful what you wish for.
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6 AntwortenNo linked account. Opinion is invalid. Muted.
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10 Antwortenlets recap here. throw fire bolt in general direction of opponent for guaranteed succes. tags up to 3 targets with 1 throw and damages all 3 for equal amount. sets targets on fire with a damage over time effect wich lasts 10 seconds and another 4 seconds for health regen to start. damage shows up through walls and pinpoints target's location and direction targets are forced to disengage as the damage is so high that a single shot from doctrine is enough for most targets to burn out. and here you are trying to convince people that the nerf wasnt well grounded?
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Ha, Bungie's getting a lot better at nerfing. They gave us just enough to be upset and not enough time to complain about it. Mixed with a little curiosity about hand cannons. GG Bungie, GG!
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1 AntwortenEvery one should rally together and get Titans nerfed do to annoying encounters
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20 AntwortenExcept that, when considering balance and not how other players feel, there was still a very clear perk path used by the vast majority of sunsingers. That means it's not balanced, as they said they want many viable perk paths on each subclass. So the change to VF also encourages use of the other two perks in that column.
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Bearbeitet von Darian: 6/14/2016 1:31:11 PMLol compares sunsingers to 4th horseman...... I was thinking they were more like thorn
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Man I main warlock, and I like this change, in PVE it will super!! And always you can find a new way in pvp. It's something fresh and different.
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The *New* reason Bungie makes me [b]fart blood and drink bleach[/b]
