Hello my dear friends! Thanks for discussing with me on the subject of hand cannons, I had a lot of fun. But since hand cannons have been altered again, I will be making another post similar to this. Thank you ALL, yes, I mean all of you, for coming, even if all you did was spam, "git gud skrub" in the chat!
I will return to the matter later, perhaps in a few days.
Thank you very much for discussing with me and each other, I can't wait to see you all again! Farewell for now!
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1 AntwortenLooks like we have a year 2 player up in here
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I'm pretty good with my HC. I just want them to rework phantom bullets. No other class has them. TLW used to but now doesn't. Other HC still do. It's a bit upsetting. That being said. I'm still decent with mine.
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Bearbeitet von Ve7n00m: 6/10/2016 6:55:52 AMThe fact that you have to rely on RNG giving you a decent range perk roll for a hand canon to be good says something about the state of Hand canons. I can get any Scout with average perks and do extremely well with it in all situations. If I have a handcanon with average perks I get outgunned with it 7/10 times, no matter how many times I duck in and out of cover whilst in an Engagement. Without Rifled Barrel you ain't beating your foe unless they're a potato! A weapons usefulness shouldn't heavily rely on RNG!
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2 AntwortenScout rifles and hand cannons are two completely different gun category's and yet your comparing them and then you say I'm a year one player so your argument isn't worth my time Jesus we have a retard at are hands
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And dont forget the fantombullets
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Bearbeitet von TruncateComb6: 6/11/2016 12:38:57 PMOh and Hand cannons at max fire rate are only on par with other weapon classes, so they wouldn't be godly, especially with their low range. [url]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GtrNjOBJddXWzXh3rf45eED31XoyfYFUX71JU32tg2E/htmlview#[/url]
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Bearbeitet von TruncateComb6: 6/11/2016 11:42:23 AMHand cannons should NOT have AS MUCH bloom. You say it's to promote pacing? Guess what? That's what the RATE OF FIRE stat is for. People shouldn't be punished for using the RATE OF FIRE stat on a primary. Plus hand cannons have notable view kick on top of that so firing at the max fire rate is a bit trickier unless you have high stability, but to get high stability you'll likely give up an ever important range perk.
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1 AntwortenYou know what's funny? Is from beta to day one and beyond, all weapons were skill based. But with all the blanket nerfs since then it's muffled any sense of skill. All the fake crap to shorten the skill gap like slowing shotgun equipped, bloom for headshot queens and whatever else they've done. The only skill you'll see in this game is before they nerfed ARs for the first time.
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I had no idea that RnG bullets fall under skill nowadays. Will I hit my target or not? Because of bloom, nobody knows! Yeah, that's skill!
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6 AntwortenI use the first curse and Oh my god I love it. It hits like a truck and is so accurate. It turns into a sniper with the perk on
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von BRAZACK: 6/10/2016 5:22:15 AMThey are not fine....its hard to pace ur shots when ur getting bullet hosed to death. I dont care about lw, and every1 uses fc as an example of hcs being fine. Fc is one hc and it is great but it has its limits. Hcs in general need a fix.Hc users get outgunned by every other weapon subclass. Scouts and pr own long to mid range and ar own cqc. Most of the time u will loose cqc to high rof autos. Yes, u can do well with hcs but u cant be as competitve as the other weapon classes. I hate when people such as urself make these biased post and u always use fc as an example. All hcs in general need to be tweaked a bit except thorn and lw.
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4 AntwortenYo hand cannons are fine? Why am I running out of ammo in pve with my Imago Loop? Why is my scout rifle more accurate then my hand cannon. If my hand cannon has more range? Why don't auto rifles/scout rifles/pulse rifles bullets disappear if you shoot them as fast as possible? Why do I get double headshots shooting in between two people? And lastly why don't I have a big pp????
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3 AntwortenWhat are you a year 2 player?
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3 AntwortenBearbeitet von InSatanWeTrust: 6/10/2016 12:53:27 AMAgree last word takes no skills it's a point and spray gun