Anyone remember this quote (I'm paraphrasing here, I don't have the exact quote) from Deej?
Do they not realize that we ARE using the same guns as we did in Y1? Hung Jury, Treads Upon Stars, you name it. Moderate impact/ROF scouts are all just reskins of Vision of Confluence. The only difference is the higher light level and crappier perks.
If we're going to be using the exact same guns, only with different skins, why not just let us upgrade our Y1 guns?
I will say this. Deej is probably right that it is not fun to use the same guns for 10 years, but that statement presumes that we will have different, BETTER guns in the future. So far, that hasn't happened. We have reskins with higher light value and [b]crappier[/b] perks. That is even LESS fun than using the same guns for 10 years.
[Edit] And presuming that this is heard, we would also like to have some Ammo for those guns please and thank you. This is a shooter after all.
[Edit 2] I think some here are missing the point. The point isn't that I want new archetypes of weapons, although that would most certainly be a welcome change. My point is we ARE using the same weapons we did in Y1 - just lesser versions due to the fact that Y2 perks are terrible and Y1 perks are watered down. Seeing as we are ALREADY using the same weapons we are from Y1 (just reskins) they might as well just let us keep using our Y1 weapons until something better comes along and we NATURALLY CHOOSE to give up old weapons in favor of new ones.
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3 AntwortenBearbeitet von ScribeTheMad: 6/1/2016 4:15:41 PM[quote]The only difference is the higher light level and crappier perks.[/quote] That's the point, too many Y1 guns/perks were "too powerful" and needed to be obsoleted so as to level the playing field a bit. In the name of balance for PvP everything needs to be nicely homogenized [url=https://www.google.com/?ion=1&espv=2#q=homogenized]definition[/url] to lower hurt feelings of being killed by something perceived as OP. Edit: But I do agree it's stupid.
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All I used for a while was hawkmoon. If they don't want us using the same weapons make them good but don't make em stupid like the doctrine was because everyone will go get that specific weapon then you get complaints.
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4 AntwortenI know right? Lol. Look at guns like nx shadow...just a [i]recolored[/i] CE raid gun. Not even reskinned. Then lets add to it that they are at a loss trying how to build the game to last otuer than ,nerf,build, nerf, build. Look what happened to our discipline, strength, and intelligence stats when TTK released. Im not going to presume to know what it takes to build this game, but lets hope Destiny 2 has the missing magic waiting for us.
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Bump It's complete bullshit that they did this and I'm still mad
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It is all about keeping you on the hamster wheel. They are constantly looking for new ways.
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The problem is that bungie knows there are enough suckers that will give them money for reskinned weapons, gear and maps (in reverse) This is what's going to happen with d2...a big reskin to keep the hamsters happy.
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Bump again
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Aggreed. We definitly need an entire new breed of weapons in Destiny 2. That being said, i still want to be able to buy every single weapon i ever got since day 1 from some kind of Legend ATM. We paid for it. Its not that hard to come up with some new kind of weapons. I even had fun thinking about it. One can only imagine what the creative minds amongst us players would think of. Give me some ideas fellas. They might read this. Ya never know..
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Lol I see a few players here who trolled post on this very thing before TTK dropped. Saying how we need to get use to change and talking about how TTK new weapons will be different and better. salt ? We use the type of weapons they allow us to or force us to use. If it's been nerfed you think players will use it? I wish they'd just give us a real reason why everything couldn't be used and why they can't get everything balanced correctly. They are capable of doing it. We know they are. Maybe because there is too many weapons and gear.....Smh I wonder if I'd be different if pve and pvp were separated.
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1 AntwortenI just really disagree with someone else deciding what is fun for me.
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1 AntwortenDoom ---> Chainsaw Doom --> Shotgun 20 years ??
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2 Antworten1. What Deej said "Its no fun to use the same guns for 10 years..." is just false. 2. [quote]If we're going to be using the exact same guns, only with different skins, why not just let us upgrade our Y1 guns?[/quote] excellent question. We should have had a smaller selection of great guns from the jump which slowly trickled in new choices until eventually we have a huge selection instead of wave after wave of replacement guns. Bigger changes should come in cosmetic diversity for armor, shaders, ships, sparrows and player controlled weapon perks instead of rng perks.
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Bump. Right now, only Scouts and Pulses are viable in end game PvE. Is that variety? No. Variety would be being able to use ANY primary weapon in PvE without being harshly penalised. AR:s still need a PvE damage buff. HC:s need bigger magazines, less damage drop-off, more damage AND most of all accuracy. It's really sad. I have a ton of 335 primaries, but I really only use two or three in end game PvE. Both being scouts (Treads and Cocytus). The other ones just don't cut it.
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Even if they didn't let us upgrade weapons further, I'd at least prefer that they leave all of the items in the loot table (all rarities from appropriate sources) and have them constantly drop with increasing stats as you level up. That way we still have the forward progression without completely removing things the instant a new "expansion" lets out. That and bring back the shard system, I actually liked that believe it or not.
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1 AntwortenOh my son !! You are damn right! There are three types of scout rifles , 4 types of pulse rifle , 5 types of hand cannons and 3-4 types of auto rifles ... Just look at the stats!! And you cannot even change much because the perks are stupid ... Why the -blam!- that perk wher you get better control and usage after getting revived or bonus damage if 3 enemys are close? I mean really what are those stupid perks????
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26 AntwortenI'm too drained of energy to put forth a full blown response to this so I'll do this like we used to do it. [quote]Shut up and play the damn game.[/quote]
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I know right people eare still living by the mida and tlw still
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BUMP you will be ignored