I'm sick of people kicking or not letting you do raids if you don't have touch of malice and/or black spindle I've done the raids before so screw off
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Spindle is not dat necessary but belive me that if you try to sttager oryx in hard and no one has tom you will be wiped
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Idk people want ToM but I would rather use my snipe like I always do. They may just want it to be faster
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Anyone that has raided a lot should have one by now, but with so many people at high light with good weapons, it's not as needed as it was when Hard mode first dropped. I've run on fireteams with people that didn't have one and the Daughters and Oryx still get dropped without a problem.
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They are both easy to obtain. Stop being lazy and put a few minutes in and get them.
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If you've done the raid before then you have the hard part of the touch of malice quest out of the way. Just finish it. Or start your own raiding group and have it not require the ToM.
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Why wouldn't you want the gun it's amazing?
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Just get TOM and stop being lazy
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Just get Gjallarhorn, it's not that hard. Oh wait...
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Or... you could just complete the questline. Novel idea, I know.
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Awhhhh poor kid. .. look he's upset.
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last run didn't use black spindle, only used tom with daugters, quick run also had someone who hadn't beaten oryx before. tom and bs not required
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You really should have it I don't understand why you don't. Ttk came out a long ass time ago. What have you been doing all this time to not have it?
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1 AntwortenToM is only good for sisters really... that's all I use it for unless I'm in the middle with bubbles... then yes it melts everything... I usually have my hand of judgement and just use spindle on warpriest and gollgy.. other then that when I form a group i don't give a hell what you have as long as you can get the job done
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KING'S FALL HARD RAID MUST BE 335+ WITH TOM BLACK SPINDLE AND SLEEPER SIMULANT MUST HAVE SHIP AND EMBLEM EQUIPPED AND FULL RAID ARMOR SET WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUNG MEN IN THEIR TWENTIES WITH THIRTY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
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Well just for shits n giggles, get either of em. Show you got em and just never use em. Myself and a buddy do that. Besides, groups who DEPEND on ToM or Spindle are generally groups you don't wanna be in... Usually trash and just really loud and retarded...
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I prefer using other exotics while raiding mostly. However, I couple of max tom and bubbles will melt some $h!t [spoiler]so does some sleepers [/spoiler]
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ToM sucks in all honesty, for the ppl demanding you have it...you're bad, plain and simple. Raid can easily be done without spindle or ToM. I personally like having a random scout with grenadier and a her fury with triple tap with the sleeper simulant. Much higher success rate and fewer wipes whenever I use that set up.
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I use tom for sisters but red death for oryx (unless if im titan in middle). It's so handy.
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Shit I remember back when vog first came out & if you didn't have a Gjallarhorn people will literally kick you out...same goes for crota
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I never see people complain that they formed their own group and couldn't raid because they didn't have ToM/Black Spindle. Form your own group, make your rules.
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1 AntwortenIf you've completed the raid why don't you have ToM? Just sound lazy to me.
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I've got around 90 KF completions, and I don't use ToM. I used to, but I got bored with it. Now I use Sleeper Simulant for pretty much the whole raid, Spindle at Golgoroth.
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4 AntwortenWhy even do the raid anymore?
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You have completed the raid.... twice. Mute.
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Make your own group with your rules, you won't make a group because you're lazy. Lazy to make your own group, lazy to get a black spindle and lazy to get tom. You want everyone to do the job for you. Not only that you cry on the forums
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After April I haven't touched that gun, no point.