Frankly I wish they would perma ban me from this craptastic game so I can put this addiction behind me.

For most of year one I had a 2-3mb download speed on my broadband (waiting for upgrade). During this time I had next to no problems with my connection to Destiny. Yeah sometimes I lagged out, but no worse than any of my friends who I can guarantee had better broadband at the time. I now have a regular 30-40mb download speed and last time I looked a 9-10mb upload speed. I still have about the same rate of connection failure/loss/quality etc. I still sometimes red-bar and or get disconnected. The problem as I perceive it is mostly Bungies. I played on my weaker connection for a few years before Destiny came out and never had issues with BF3 or 4, Halo 4 or any other online game I play. Even now I get more problems playing Destiny than any other online game.

Yes a lot of the lag is caused by bungies horrible net coding but there is still a lot of people playing on hotspots, wifi, DSL, or just on really busy networks ( dorms, house holds with lots of electronic devices). Some of it is controllable and some isn't. But for someone on a bad connection to go into to crucible and play knowing he has a red bar is a dick move. It's unfair to players who make sure they have a good connection. Players who knowingly play in bad connections and do nothing to improve it deserve to be permanently banned from crucible.

Having an occasional red bar could be due to matchmaking. If you have a red bar most of the time, then it is likely to be due to your internet connection or something you are doing. As well as your hyper-fast connection, here are things that can cause lag in matches: Avoid being in a fireteam unless you know there are no problems with you playing together Stop streaming. For most people, no one wants to watch you Don't watch Netflix / someone else's stream when you are playing; not even during matchmaking while you are bored in orbit Play during peak hours for your time zone. If you are matched with someone in a different continent because you are playing at 3 am, then it's your fault. If you are a red bar a lot if the time, think about what you can do to improve your gaming experience and that if others [spoiler]I think any restrictions should be temporary (even for repeat offenders) unless there is proof that they are lagswitchers or deliberately taking advantage of the poor connection. This will stop bans for people who may not have better connection options available [/spoiler]

[quote]asinine[/quote]Sounds like an enzyme or chemical 🤔 [spoiler]I know it means stupid and foolish, but I did a Biology exam not too long ago and that crap is still in my head[/spoiler]

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I don't care what OP or anyone else says there are players that genuinely have shitty connections and consistently ruin the experience for other people. I don't care if it's equipment, ISP or what. It doesn't change that you are ruining the game for other people. Bungie should however, warn people. Something like "look we're getting complaints about you or whatever fix your shit"

Yep. I got a one week restriction just for having an "unstable connection". The thing is, I am pretty much always green bar. Doesn't seem fair to me. You hear this Bungie! I'm calling you out! In the ways of old!

The main issue is that destiny rewards bad connections. Go play doom, gears of war, rainbow 6 etc. Players with poor connections are punished with latency & rubber banding, shot delay etc. These games also prioritise connections so have a much better gameplay experience. And lag is VERY rare. And the laggers get punished for it when it happens. In destiny it can give you a serious advantage. They just need to get rid of skill based matchmaking and prioritise connection. I have very strong internet, hard wired to my router, in a one of the largest European cities in the world. The major issue for me is I am constantly and consistently playing with Australians and Americans. My router identifies different ip addresses and in a 12 player game at least 4 different continents get represented in the average game.

Just reading thought this thread i've noticed that 3 things really stand out.. 1. It doesn't matter how much you pay for you internet...if your countries network is shit..well then your gonna have shit service. Now i live in Australia and i pay a fair bit for my internet..i live less than 500 metres from the exchange, but i still do experience red bar from time to time. If our government ever actually pulled their heads outta each others rear ends...then maybe we could get a better service. Just because the US have numerous service suppliers doesn't then give them the rights to dictate to the rest of the world to either fix your service or else....we have paid the same amount of money as the rest..so we shouldn't be banned for something out of our control....maybe Bungie should ring our government and tell them to get a move or else :) 2. What the hell does someones K/D got to do with a person making a comment? I mean seriously when did the world impose a shut your mouth policy based on your K/D. Now i know that your all scrambling to check my account and tell me that "your shit scrub" and " you have no right to comment cause your K/D is shit", but i'll beat you to it... My K/D is shit...not because I have red bar connections or whatever other bullshit excuse that people come up with it's because I generally don't play Crucible...and when I do...well I'm not super serious about it. It's a game people...this isn't really happening. So take a deep breath and calm the f$%^ down. 3. It seems that all out American brothers and sisters are the one that are actually excited that that Bungie is gonna banned red bars. I mean if you guys want to play with yourselves then go ahead, but that doesn't mean that the rest of the world misses out because you can't play nice. Dedicated servers would only really help with people in that region, but it will not actual fix the problem. I mean how much has Bungie/Activison made from all of us as collective? You can't tell me that it's complete the fault of a few that is cause the rest to suffer.. Now I know that I'm gonna get the expected hate messages back, but just remember this. We all play this game because we love it...some a hell of a lot more then others. Just because you have better internet service then someone else doesn't mean you go all ' i'm superior to you' and start calling for people to be banned. Yes I understand that there are the ones that for what ever reason have to manipulate their networks to cheat and win...and yes i have been on the end of that lag switching and swore at my TV until my wife tells me to shut up ;),and yes i have reported those offenders as well. There will always be cheaters and there will always be some sort of network issues that will cause problems..but come on guys...the way forward is not to call for a lynching, but to fix the problem

The problem we have is player base numbers Y1 plenty of players, we start cruicable and have a large pool of players to pick from all local to each other Y2 player base drops, the pool of players local drops so we now need to go further to find a group. You probably notice when matchmaking it takes a long time compared to y1. So bungie is trying to fix a lack of player base with all sorts of code fixes. When the April update dropped everything ran smooth but slowly dropping off again and the same will happen in September.

Ok, hold up. I play in fireteams with people from all around the world. I have pretty good internet and sometimes notice I have a red bar or someone I'm playing with has a red bar while playing PvP. Are you telling me the I could be timed out of PvP by Bungie for this?