im so furious about this. id rather face mida last word hawkmoon then auto rifles. its a serious problem if your using a hand cannon. i am above average hand cannon user and can handle any weapon but for some reason auto rifles win out every time against hand cannons. can you beat a auto rifle user ? yes if you shoot first but if he is shooting you at the same time 99 percent of the time he wins out. this is why hand cannons need a buff and they need to get rid of phantom bullets. i have no problems killing any other type of weapon.
surely you hand cannon users must know what im taking about. its especially noticable with those high rate of fire auto rifles. i once killed a doctorine with my hand cannon when we where shooting at the same time but we traded kills and i had to try so hard to get him down.
everything else in pvp seems balanced to me except for this.
no matter how fast or slow you pull the trigger on a hand cannon if both you and that auto rifle user start firing at the same time the hand cannon loses 99 percent of the time.
anyone notice this or have any thoughts on this. i hate having to switch to a pulse rifle in matches to compete with auto rifle users. i want to use a hand cannon 90 percent of the time.
for me auto rifles are boring to use i have some good ones but dont want to use them there boring!!!
in rumble someone could test this out have a auto rifle user and hand cannon guy face each other and have them shoot at the same time and see who wins 100 percent of the time.
i will say i dont use last word so i dont know if this is the exception.
EDIT2: i dont think i use hand cannons any differently then others its just that i hate being killed by a auto rifle when i get killed by other guns it does not faze me. i have been using my hawkmoon and can take out autos. i think the hawkmoon is the best to combat autos like doctorine. but ill try more testing. still rng bullets need to be eliminated.
all people know how to do is insult and they dont read very carefully.
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2 AntwortenDude, get the Devil You Know. I had one drop with an absolute wipe your ass with it garbage blasted shit roll and it still slays everything and everyone in pvp. Seriously its got good range, perfect ROF, wonderful stability, and good impact. Seriously, i have outgunned Mida and that damn Trials auto rifle that I cant remember the name of quite often with TDYK. It feels like a hand cannon from back when hand cannons were the meta. Get One. I had on in year one destiny but I dont even think it was as gold as it is now back then.
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I reckon it's fine to an extent. I can kill auto rifle users quite easy with my hc but only if I land all headshots.
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I was using the last word last night and doing very well couple 1.7 k/d. Switched to Zhalo and was well under 1 k/d. When I used the Suros Regime before, I was racking up assists but not many kills. Auto Rifles are not great in pvp, to me anyway
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2 AntwortenAre you kidding? Mida and last word are legendary hand cannons biggest enemy. All i can say is lower your sensitivity to 3 or 4 and pace your shots until you can fire faster and dont stand still. Explosive rounds might also really help you
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Strafe when you fire. TTK is not everything in a gunfight.
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von KLGChaos: 5/14/2016 5:15:27 AMAuto rifles too strong... Bungie nerfs them to the ground. Everyone screams they're too weak and unusable. Bungie buffs them a bit. Everyone once again screams they're overpowered. There is no winning in this game because there will always be people freaking out over one weapon type or other being overpowered.
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1 AntwortenIt could be also i am killing auto rifle users more then i think because when you kill someone it does not say what gun they are using. i was killing suros auto exotic because i remembered the persons name using the suros . the high rate of fire ones are definitely more difficult to kill . the low rate of fire autos cant compete with the Hof autos. i might even be for a buff for low rate of autos but dont buff them too much where i can t kill them with my hand cannon.i tried the low rate of fire auto a couple of times it can get kills but seems no where near the high rate of fire in effectiveness.
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It's the exotic hand cannons. Not legendary. & auto rifles.
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6 AntwortenAutos are perfectly balanced right nkw mate. I who would consider myself and under average HC user can easily take out a doctorine with my almost no range eyasluna. So id say that u have a bit high opinion of ur self. Dats all.
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I don't think autos should be nerfed just fix phantom bullets!
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>complaining about auto rifles
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I am late to serious pvp. I a working hard at it. I have yet to unlock the shax bounties even. But last night I was working on the quest that lead up to them, on the hand cannon part. I haven't really used hc's since before they nerfed hawkmoon. Anyway I was able to knock out the hc quest in 4 rounds of control with very little problem. Is so hard to admit that there may just be players who out skill you, regardless of the weapon they use? I was able to drop some guys who were using dop, buy playing up to my strength, and not theirs. Cover, good aim, picking my shots and my fights. Trying to find them at a disadvantage. You can't be in a ar users face not expect to get hosed. Hold back, use cover, and land those head shots. Or look for the ones who are hurt and finish them. Playing smart has helped me tremendously!
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And I thought I was the only one who though the "phantom" bullets existed.
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Keep your distance and use cover when using a hand cannon They were once long range but now they aren't Adapt your play style
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3 Antworten1Tap throwing knife everything
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Bearbeitet von AboundingChip85: 5/13/2016 12:58:41 PMOp does have a point. Not asking for nerfs,maybe dial back the changes in HCs.
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von baitedbadger: 5/13/2016 8:10:01 AMI use both, but only the best rolls of each, and I don't feel weak by using either. Hand canons can't compete CQC other than TLW but can beat auto rifles at mid range with the right perks. If there is a problem, its that the entire hand canon class is dependent on having a range perk to be viable, and then at the optimum range they are lethal, but its quite a narrow range without range perks. Buff hand canon range accuracy, or give all hand canons innate hip fire perks so they can compete CQC.
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4 AntwortenHand cannons need a buff, yet then the Nerfers would scream and we're then back to square one.
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My silly blue hand cannon on my warlock two shots people in the head.
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2 AntwortenCheck out my Eyasluna on my Titan that thing melts anything.
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Yeah I have a god roll eyasluna I can't even use right now. Hand Cannons need an accuracy buff since if you miss 1 shot your dead and if you land all shots its a trade
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4 AntwortenYes phantom billets need to be adressed but that is the only thing I agree with.
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2 AntwortenI have her revenge and do quite well up against autos
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2 AntwortenI'd rather go up against a doctrine any day of the week then someone who is skilled with a eyesaluna or hawkmoon.
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Only versus doctrine it's bad
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I don't have this problem