I have a question for you. How is warframe considered Pay to win. Yet Destiny is not considered pay to win? Heres a full comparison. Destiny. 1. You Pay money to buy gear thats level 3. Then you infuse it fast to get it max rank. Especially considering how most people have high level gear from farming TTK Raid. The infusions take a few short moments to fully max them. 2. Or you can Farm for the Treasure once a week. And then infuse them. 3. Has different stats. RNG 4. You cant trade or earn Real money currency in Destiny. Warframe. 1. You can pay money to buy weapons armor.. But still have to level them to 30. (usually several times after formaing them) Think of this as your Infusion. Except a good deal more time. They do not come maxed out. 2.You can farm for the parts as long as you have the keys to go into said mission that has the item. 3. Weapons, Armor. All have the same Stats. No RNG on stat rolls. 4. Can trade Prime weapon and armor parts for premium currency. (Yep you dont have to pay a cent real life.) Okay maybe not a full comparison but enough of the solid points to the Destiny fans that Cried/cries that Warframe is Pay to win. So. Lets hear it now. with your proof People. Haha. So many downvotes for the Truth.