I did the lvl 42 PoE at least 16 times and haven't even gotten a single elder cipher weapon: that's the lord of wolves, dregs promise, and queenbreakers bow. The only person I know to get one of these is my friend and he got the queenbreakers bow on our second attempt at the challenge of the elders. Can you only get one of these while you are doing the elder sigil, or is it just a random, end-game drop? I really need to know because I think I might torture my friend with the thorn if I don't know soon. Update: Do I need the highest score or the most kills to get a chance? Or is it really random? Another update: got done with my 22nd try, still nothing yellow and alien looking :(