Ok, let me explain this slow for the multitude of F8cking retards that keep venting their assholes and saying the same stupid shit over and over. The ammo nerf is bad. It don't matter if a vex f*cking dumptruck drops a billion ammo packs. During the raid the damage phase has a timer. You get to shoot a boss for a limited amount of time. In golgorath you can fire about 1 bullet per second with the spindle, and you can comfortably empty 18 rounds. Two of my characters hold 24 and I can go past 18 no problem with them. The gaze at golgorath lasts 20 seconds. War priest has 5 buffs lasting 10 seconds, in reality with a good buff guy you got about 40- 45 seconds to shoot at war priest. That's over TWICE as long as golgorath. With my 24 rounds I run out looong before the buffs are done. There is NO picking up ammo during either boss damage phase. Try that stunt and you'll probably die, if you die its a wipe. Even if you make it back alive the time to shoot is over. Oh hey, lets just switch to heavy. Oh right.... they f*cked that up too, and that WON'T be dropping in the truck loads they promised. As far as the mida goes, yeah I know the walnut brain of most PVP players can't comprehend how the mida works in PVE. It stops ads from running, spreading out and overrunning the team. It stops taken psions from splitting, it can stop fire spitters from spitting, and staggers heavy shielded enemies. No other primary...NO OTHER primary, high caliber rounds or not staggers enemies like the mida. I got a ton of guns with high caliber rounds and the enemies just run while being shot. The hung jury don't stop them, pulse rifles don't stop them...zip...nada. The people bitching know exactly how their tools work, know what they are losing, and know exactly what reduced ammo in the raid will mean, and most importantly know that time after time bungie can't find it's f*cking ass with both hands.

The only nerf that I know is stupid and will hate is TLW nerf. They took away the damage bonus from hip fire, they did this because people practiced with the gun and got good at hip firing the weapon. That's already stupid, people will get good with guns the longer they are out that's just what happens but bungie likes to b an asshole and rip that out of people's hands. I also am mad about how now that exotic perk is useless and yet another exotic won't feel exotic. There's no reason to hip fire without the damage bonus so TLW just has a wasted perk slot

Bump I completely agree people have been too quick to judge. I've seen people saying they are done with destiny because of this weapon patch that they haven't even tested for themselves. It makes me laugh when people say that because you know they are just being dramatic and will most likely keep playing.

This place is full of morons. The only people who complain are the people who are scared their crutch is being taken away.

COD forums are worse. If you calculated in salt Destiny forums makes 4 gallons of salt a day. COD forums make 20 gallons of salt. (By gallon I mean like a whole milk carton full of salt.)

You can put it on bungie. They're the ones constantly changing things for people. They could say no and carried on with the game they made but they don't.

I can judge about the nerf on TLW‚ since I've been wielding that gun for a year now. It will hit Tissue Papers‚ Dildos and Marshmallows to guardians as they nerfed its golden strength already‚ it should have the fastest kill time amongst all primary weapons that are taken into the Crucible. That's for certain‚ and this Opinion on mine isn't biased its coming from long time Veterans like Mtashed‚ Kraftyy and tripleWRECK. For the other stuff tho? I agree people will ask a neverending amount of nerfs onto whatever becomes strong‚ Instead of countering it they chose to ask a nerf for being such lazy brats Peace out‚ Sore Losers and Nerftards in the Community

First of all, don't speak, [b]at all[/b], for the status of this Community. Secondly, [i]wowtoofunnynow[/i] has a point. I have seen little to none complaints but mere criticism on these updates. They goddamn suck and we know it, so.... we try to give ideas on how they can try to fix thing.... Albeit constructive or not. This game will never be in your favor, so don't try to think it will ever be. There's always going to be changes, good or bad. The changes come with complaints AND criticism, but I've only seen them from those who are negatively invalid, have a short lived Destiny lifespan, a very young child, and an angry customer. Or, Bungie is losing their mind. Either way, this game is going to die.... slowly and painfully. I think Activision wanted that, more or less.

I'm seeing criticism but no whining. Honestly bungies patches just weren't good.

What part of a Guardian you dont understand? Bungie builds a game that your characters are supposed to become more powerful as time goes on. Please explain how nerfing everything in this game for the next 8 years is Bungie going to accomplish this? Since y1 nerf Bungie has gone the opposite of what the concept of this game was ment to be. How is finding ways to extend the grind in this game in anyway Bungie can every time a new events is added. Makings you feel more powerful? How is it that Bungie refuses to separate PVP from PVE helping anyone feel more powerful? How is making weapons, gear, reduced ammo etc make anyone feel more powerful? This game was never built for balance and i don't care if anyone disagrees we me. You can't continue to keep making weapons and gear or whatever in this game and allow evey single thing in crucible and think there is a way to balance PvP and PvE. Expecially knowing Bungie strongly suggest using a variety but is forcing gamers to go to the next go to because of all the nerfing. Yes the community has their hand in it, but Bungie is a business and should have some what of a grip on their game. Their logic on adding extra shit to nerf is just lame. Bungie is not nerfing shit just because of PvP. They are parsley doing it because they dont have shit for content to add to this game. Meaning, they will nerver be able to bring this game to its concpt because of the cut conten profit making and the dumbasses are only winging shit at this point. So they will look for any way they can to extend the grind, and they will always do it when its convenient. Like the so call new POE.

They're upset because, yet again, things are altered in PvE for PvP reasons. If you're not able to comprehend that, you have the intelligence of a potato.