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How's the Division?

People call it the perfect Destiny, yet everyone I hear about it irl complain and say they're already bored. Can any current or ex ''hardcore'' Destiny players tell me how it is 100% honest? I've seen it for 12 hours of which I played 5, alot of things were fun but it was indeed boring. first impression 7,5/10 [spoiler]after lots of great input I think the conclusion is; It's fun for now but won't last that long. Unless they DO provide enough dlc's and listen to complaints. Kind of the same as Destiny, although destiny DID drop the ball on that front.[/spoiler] [quote][b]Ninja edit:[/b] [spoiler]This thread has been moved to the #Gaming forum. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/140396851/0/0]See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Gaming tag and its uses. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Profile/254/4878]Spawn,[/url] for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler][/quote]
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  • You can't play the game for 5 hours and accurately give it a score of 7.5. You're an idiot.

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    • THIS IS MY OPINION: The game is OK. not great but not horrible. It's super buggy but what else do we expect from Ubisoft these days. I won't be comparing the 2 games cause there completely different from each other. The graphics got a big down grade but to be honest I would have put money on that happening after what we saw with watch dogs. It was completely over hyped to the max. It's nothing fantastic or anything ur it's a nice breath of fresh air over destiny right now. The gun play o think it sub par it take close to a whole clip on starter weapons to take down an enemy. I don't care who you are my m4 should be a one shot to the head if I land it but no it's not. The customization is just Horrible. Just down right disappointing to say the least. The bugs, omg the bugs in that game are just awful. Pop Ins, bullets not registering. I was shoot a guy in the face and he just stood there staring at me. Then when I moved in he came alive. The cover system I will say is great. Most likely the best thing in the game so far. Moving from cover to cover is awesome and unique on its own way. Pvp- it's a love hate relationship. You just have to try that to make your own opinion. That's my review/ OPINION on this game. Hope it helped.

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      • I have been playing Destiny since first look alpha. Not sure if I would even consider my self hardcore. But how can anyone who has been playing since Vanilla Destiny say they are bored of other games

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      • I'm not complaining or think its boring.

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      • I like it a lot. Not looking forward to end game grind. Those challenge missions are going to destroy all of my belongings. I will probably through my apartment out the window.

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      • I have like 50 days in Destiny so I guess I'm a 'hardcore' player. I've got 27 hours into the Division and I can that it's fun. I'm almost a level 30 so I can't tell you what the endgame grind is like, but I enjoy the mechanics of the game. I've always been more of a third person fan though.

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        • I've had 3 days off work n I've hardly done anything other than play the division. Totally beats year 1 destiny for me. When the free update come and the weekly, daily events n stuff I'll have more than enough to do plus missions on Challenge it's got way more stuff going on than destiny did year 1 and I played the hell out of that so I'll be playing the hell out of this.

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        • Search up year 1 content trailer. Plenty of content don't worry!

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        • 25 of my friends are max level already ... They say they beat the game

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          • Pretty good

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          • In having fun playing it

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          • Shooter gamers..... The only people fighting over The Division are shooter gamers arguing with other shooter gamers. People who love their PVP and/or their FPS are badmouthing The Division. People who Like their tactical/twitch shooter gamers (first or third person) are bitching about the game's enemies being "bullet sponges" or the play being "Repetitive". Bottomline, This game is an RPG. If you don't like RPGs, then don't play the game. If you dont' like TPSs...then don't play the game. But to those of us who came to Destiny because it was shooter game that had more depth, and saw its potential as an MMO-RPG/shooter hybrid THE DIVISION IS SHAPING UP TO BE THE KIND OF RPG THAT WE HAD HOPED THAT DESTINY WOULD BECOME....and isn't. While The Divions: The Shooter doesn't have much to teach Bungie and Destiny..... Bungie---if they were smart----would be playing through this game and taking COPIOUS notes about The Division: The RPG. Because this game is a game that has been designed by a developer who has clearly embraced the RPG nature of the game...and knows who to design one well. As opposed to Bungies's flailing efforts of the last 2 years. Not only do I hope that Ubisoft applies what it ahs learned hear to Watch_dogs 2. I hope that Bungie applies many of the things to make Destiny 2 a game worthy of being called an RPG.

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          • I am thoroughly enjoying it. I wouldn't compare it directly to Destiny though. Seems most people are trying to do that.

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          • I feel like I am qualified. Former Destiny fanboy, 1200hrs played, all 3 classes maxed out at 40 (310+ light), all exotics, beaten every raid, every strike, flawless, all that junk more times than I can count. For Division: Lv30, maxed base, maxed skill trees, lv16 in DZ, played both betas, beat campaign, just got my first high end weapon. -------------- Only comparing Vanilla Destiny vs Division, as Destiny has had almost 2 years now to improve their game. First off. Division is an RPG first, shooter second. Destiny is a shooter first, RPG second. Wrap your mind around that first. If you just want to play a shooter, you will be disappointed. Division is far more tactical. It requires more strategy and less thumb skill than Destiny. If you stand out in the open and don't use cover strategically, you're toast. Side-by-side comparison: Gunplay: Destiny by far. Nothing really compares with the gunplay in Destiny. Guns/gear: Haven't seen everything Division has to offer, but leaning towards Destiny. Lots of high end gear for every slot and you are not limited to just one in Division. Story: Division by far. Actually has a decent storyline, in-game lore, plot, etc... Missions/Quests: Division by far. Way more interesting encounters and level design. Not just "go here, kill that" Open World: Destiny has more variety in level designs, but Division's map size is 10x bigger with 10x more to do than Vanilla Destiny. Beautiful replica of NYC, but you are in one location the whole game. Lag: Division by far. There were server issues right at launch, but that's resolved, and there isn't one shred of lag. Dedicated servers. Cooperative Play: can't really completely comment as Division hasnt released their raids yet. As for just missions / pvp, waaaaay more fun co-op in Division. It's a tactical team game. You actually have defined Tank/DPS/Healing roles that are very synergistic together. Loot / Gear Progression / Levelling System: Division by far. Standard XP system in both PVE and DZ. gear drops appropriately, maybe almost too frequently. I can farm for a few hrs at lv40 and come up with like 5 purple and maybe 1 high end drop. No double + triple RNG nonsense. Level not tied to RNG. Have to see what the raid drops look like though. 3 ways to get best-in-slot gear: crafting, PVE, and DZ. Endgame: Can't really comment, as the raids / weekly stuff isn't out yet. All there is right now is daily missions, which are replays of regular missions with harder enemies. You get Phoenix Credits which are used to buy the best gear in the game. Gonna have to go with Destiny unless Division's raids and DLC stuff really impress. Enemies in Division can get bullet spongy. Usually if you increase your DPS it isn't that bad. For high level DZ / challenge mode missions, you will want a squad otherwise it gets a bit tedious to solo. Trading will come, raids will come, lots of free content updates + 3 paid DLCs before Christmas. The pacing with releasing new stuff is fantastic. Content droughts hopefully will not be a thing. Basically Destiny had more promise, but totally dropped the ball. Who knows, maybe D2 will be amazing, but given Bungie's track record, i'm not hopeful. Division is less ambitious with a lower ceiling on how awesome it can be, but everything is executed very well. Will Division kill Destiny? No. The reason is that they are different enough from each other. If I want the RPG itch, Division. If I want the shooter itch, Destiny. I look at them in a symbiotic relationship as opposed to rivals. A little healthy competition is a good thing, will make both games better. I would say it's absolutely worth getting if you need a breath of fresh air during the great Destiny content drought.

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            • It's another game designed to be played in groups. Destiny has more to do as a solo player. It's also a tactical 3rd person shooter, not a run and gun fps like destiny, and it doesn't have arena based pvp play. It plays a lot better in a group than destiny does, except for the first couple of times you do a new raid, but the people who whinge about destiny because they have no friends to play with are going to have the same issues with the division. And the children who play destiny and have the attention span of a goldfish will rubbish the cover based nature of it because it bores them. Play it and make up your own mind

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              • Year one player here who played beta of the division only and from the experience I can say it's good. the online is fun but so frustrating in the sense that anything you pick up can be lost if you die. Imagine running around the cosmodrome, other players you run into can kill you and if they do, anything you recently picked up is lost unless you go back to the same spot and even then someone can easily just pick up your stuff. Maybe I just need to "git good" but it's just a minor inconvenience if someone you were just playing/ working with decides to stab you in the back and take your shit.

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                • It's bad. And completely different from Destiny, so it isn't a good comparison. And no forced third person game can ever be called "perfect" #TitanMasterRace

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                  • Bearbeitet von harrymfa: 3/11/2016 12:57:36 PM
                    I was a hardcore Destiny player. At the time I quit playing in June 2015, I ranked in the top 2% of hours played. The Division is everything I hoped a game like Destiny was. It's made for the ground up to be played with other people. It has optional matchmaking, proximity chat, in-game LFG, all the stuff that Destiny doesn't have to get you ready to play with a team, or tossed around like an afterthought. You're not left out in the cold if you want to play endgame. The "social hub" like The Tower, is indeed a group of social hubs (not one, not two, a bunch of them) where you can find people to play with. Team gameplay has depth, you can't just enter an area guns blazing without having to plan a strategy first. In many cases you can, but it will result in a messy firefight. The specialties are made to aid teammates tactically from the ground up. The endgame is hard! Instead of weeklies, you have daily challenges. They will feel like level 34 Skolas, only with checkpoints, and loot system that does not abuse its players. I already built a fireteam to go through the missions or just patrolling around to rank up. It was far more difficult and took me far longer to build a similar team with Destiny. So many details to show you the world is alive. You interact with the NPCs you're protecting, not just vendors. In Destiny you know the Tower is in some city, but you have no idea who are you fighting for. The hipsters hanging out with the factions at the Tower? The sweeping robot? The first few hours will take you a while to get used to the mechanics, which are a bit too complex. I have 12-14 hours so far and counting, and I'm completely hooked. The verdict is that, despite being a new IP, the game is quite polished. With Destiny, I always felt like I was playing an unfinished beta.

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                  • Why are you asking on the [b][u]DESTINY[/u][/b] forum? They are most likely going to say it's shit because they are blindly following Bungie. Go to the Ubisoft forums and ask people who know the company and have played the game religiously.

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                    • I just got it last night and it is a shit ton of fun

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                    • I am also asking the same question. Is it worth the money?

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                      • Bearbeitet von Bob: 3/11/2016 1:07:11 PM
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                        It's "ok" since it's something new, but you realize very quickly how boring it gets imo. People can say Destiny is repetitive. But it doesn't compare to Division. Destiny is repetitive in the fact that you run the same events over and over again, but each event in unique to itself. Warpriest is a very different fight from Golgoroth. Division however is almost exactly the same no matter what. the boss I fought at level 4 is basically the exact same strat that I fought at level 30, it's because of that, that I have noticed anyway, that once you start making higher levels, the bosses become extremely easy where the non boss adds are the things to worry about. where at the lower level you worry about the boss alot. People hang in to the small chance at "raids" coming to Division, but with how limited your character is (he can't even jump). I don't see the "raids" being on the complexity level that Destiny is Edit: Division also, since it has MM and is very public about it, built their game around grouping. Sure you can do the mission solo, just like people can do the NF solo. but it will be harder and the loot will be the same. that's basically what it is. Where Destiny is built more around solo players with group activities included (strikes, raids, NF)

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                      • Bearbeitet von Quazi*******: 3/11/2016 2:10:23 AM
                        As a beta destiny player, I can say I enjoy it quite a bit. Although I've always been more into tactical games where I really need to think about how to proceed in the next engagement. The Division satisfies everything that Destiny doesn't for me, although Destiny will be my pvp outlet. The modding and variety of gear in division really makes me excited for the next drop as well. At lastly the perk tree is great imo, I personally like to run as a tanky medic. Aka I use the riot shield and revival drop pod, basically making me the most supportive on the team. All in all I like it a lot, I also like the road map Ubisoft has displayed for us, next month free dlc with end game content, yes please. My expectations were set pretty low due to me mainly buying is an outlet to play with my family, but it is actually enjoyable to play with my old destiny clan mates as well. And did I mention they already have an in game chat system and match making for everything? Yeah well done Ubisoft. People need to stop defending destiny like its the bible, and people need to stop making the division seem like something it's not. My only gripe is I really couldn't make my avatar look like the avatar I make in most games I play, but even that is a minor thing. Hope this read helps, y'all have a good night.

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                        • Bearbeitet von Vale: 3/11/2016 8:14:43 AM
                          As a hardcore destiny player I have had about 25 hours and counting of fun in the game and if we do the 6 dollars an hour thing I would say its worth the 60 dollars by far. If you go into it for the story it doesn't get interesting till you first meet the LMB however that's later in the game. I've had a ton of fun in the dark zone and in pve however I would recommend waiting till level 30 (Which takes a while) but after that it's a blast.

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                          Don't listen to anyone here. Just play it for yourself

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                        • Bearbeitet von Lordsa Jar-Jar: 3/11/2016 6:23:05 AM
                          If you game on PC, stay away from it. If you're on consoles, then it's really the only new thing out there at the moment. Consoles games so bad this gen :( Main problem, is that there's no end game content other than PVP.

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