All I hear is a bunch of wannabe adults saying how raids with MM would be a bad idea. First of raids are simple. Extremely simple. Nothing hard about them at all. Second. LFG already has all the issue that you guys say MM [b]might[/b] have. Thing is. I'd rather MM find me some guys than have to LFG through a bunch of retards that didn't meet the 'requirement' or that met them but still are incapable of completely their goddamn roll in the raid. So I'll keep it simple. All the idiots that want to group up in Lfg go for it. Don't hold back MM because you think your crappy excuse of finding a team may be better.

Try running the sleeper quest or exotic Sword quest with randoms.... Its a nightmare Edit- haha I love this community. So much was assumed from just one sentence. I didnt say I couldn't get these missions done because of randoms or that it's impossible to do it with randoms. All I said is its a nightmare. Meaning unnecessary obstacles are created and simple tasks are made hard. Now I have completed the sleeper quest on all three characters and two of those with randoms. One went fine the other I had more pick ups than a 1 dollar hooker. I do not have all swords but that's more lack of motivation to grind out the special materials. Bolt was attempted with randoms but after a few games of randoms killing my knight I just waited for friends. Optional matchmaking is good but eventually you will run into a nightmare group and decide friends are more reliable.

[b]Destiny needs matchmaking for everything[/b] because it's a pain to even get a game going , one has to waste countless hours with various forums spamming , discrimination based on gear/grimoire/light levels is strong in the community , not even speaking about people who kick others right before the rewards [b]SOLUTION:[/b] add matchmaking as a option [b]HOW?[/b] : simply add it into the game settings to turn matchmaking ON/OFF. if there is a pretty useless option to wear a helmet in the tower there , why isnt a matchmaking option available for those who need it ? i had to add over 500 random people to my friendlist which i mostly met during the initial game where i added em only and never saw em again, for each person i added i had to spend between 5-30 minutes forums spamming and waiting , if i take a generous average of 10 minutes per player im at 83 wasted hours only to overcome bad game design in terms of matchmaking and thats a joke considering the game had a 500M $ budget [b]here's my experience with this current "brilliant" destiny matchmaking.[/b] 1.) start destiny 2.) decide to play something that doesn't have matchmaking 3.) look at my friendlist which has always about 100+ players online but i lost track who they are since i only added em for one game and they busy doing their own stuff 4.) go away from console to my laptop and spam forum threads , one post isnt enough because it gets lost after a minute in the depths of the thread 5.) go back to console to see if there are any friend requests 6.) if no friend requests , repeat steps 4 + 5 7.) if someone responds by just providing a nickname i have to write it down as its hard to memorize nicknames such as xxxSup3rPlayya5678xxx , the go back to enter it into my ps4 and send a friend request (often they already are in the game with another party by the time or not accepting my add because they already play) 8.) after 5-30 minutes depending on the luck i get enough friend requests , sometimes even more than is needed for the game , then i have to decide who to leave out which sucks for me as i hate doing that 9.) while playing with those random people i keep getting more friend requests for my old post from 30 minutes ago which i have to ignore , i hate doing that [b]Optional Matchmaking alternative (as in Division for example):[/b] 1.) start destiny 2.) decide to play something , press matchmaking 3.) play with randoms

of course it does, plenty other games are proving already for years , "not possible" its just a sad excuse by desticles on why bungie cant get their matchmaking done

As long as it is an option with criteria to match its a great idea. And like you stated the ability to kick those not fit. Hopefully Bungie takes a few notes from Division.

Optional matchmaking on everything is a great idea. There really is no viable argument that can be made against it. The real question is does Bungie actually have anyone capable of programming it correctly and making it work. Given the history of glitches, bugs, problems, and the mess that matchmaking is currently I am guessing that they do not have the capability to handle something like that. They can't even keep things easy to keep track of. You have to check the forums, website, Twitter, instagram, blog, and God only knows what else just to keep up. Everything about bungie and Destiny is a mess right now, but maybe they will take us on a walkthrough of the cosmodrome soon to make it all better.

I must admit I did some matchmaking and me and three other ransoms had an amazing time in the dark zone. Some of the most epic fun I've had in a video game. Even more fun than the first time I ran the Vault of glass. The Division might just wind up killing Destiny after all.

The Division seems to be developed by people who know how to make videogames instead of former Kotaku bloggers thinking they're the Second Coming of Miyamoto. - Social interactions and team playing are an integral part of the game. Matchmaking is built in for that purpose. - Proximity chat. Enough said. - Matchmaking is optional. You have privacy settings that allows you to play with randoms or with friends only. I'm not sure if this is correct, but it seems the game purposely puts people in your friends list in the same server you are. A few times, I have seen the map and it indicated the position of someone in my friends list. - Matchmaking can work as an effective LFG tool. You can choose which activity you want the game to find you people to play with. - The maps are designed for team play. Many routes of attack, flanking and overwatch. In many opportunities enemies are unaware you're coming, so it gives you a chance to coordinate an attack with your teammates and start engaging when everyone is ready. Don't get me wrong, you need a mic for that, but if no one has it, the game won't stop you from trying. Your firefights will be messier and likely far more difficult without coordination. A sloppy player can be a liability to the team (kick him out). - The classes are built for team play. Two of the first specialties allow you to heal teammates from a nearby radius, or to provide cover. You can also attract aggro with certain kind of guns. In resume, this is a game where coop is the front and center of the game, and it was designed from the ground up to make the most out of it. Another thing that I'm glad to see, the world is alive. Most NPCs are not merely vendors. If you ever wondered what goes on right outside of the Tower in Destiny, take a walk on the streets of The Division.

Optional matchmaking would be good for Destiny. I don't know why players are still arguing to this day over something that would be optional.