So you say they can't pump out content like we ask. But in year one every 3 months religiously they were putting out dlc, and keep ping people happy. Now it's been almost 6 months and nothing new and the game is more stale than it ever has been. But they didn't have a problem in year 1, why change the way they do things in year 2 and risk killing your game?

This guys post loses credibility to me for the reason that I don't believe any software development company is valued at a trillion dollars

Taking an entire month off over xmas didn't help.

Honestly, I wish they'd just come out with small bits of content more often. SRL was a great way to chill out with friends and have fun, while still arming some cool loot for infusing. I understand crimson double was a valentine's day event, but they could easily implement a legit 2v2 playlist. The only thing that frustrates me, is that anytime anything new comes out, it's either temporary or it closes off other parts of the game. We need more options altogether, rather than replacing old options with new options.

[quote]I think a lot of the vocal minority would feel better if Bungie could tell us this themselves Would that cost opportunity and revenue? They danced around this with the way they talked about the heavy ammo bug. So I'm an enterprise dev and I can't disagree with what you're saying. But I think you're overlooking the main problem that Bungie is having. They've created a schizophrenic product where: Their customers feel entitled to a subscription based service. This entitlement is not without Bungie's own prompting via continuing discussion of "events" and such [essentially a SaaS model] They've essentially advertised a product with a support contract and regular upgrade cycles (consider vanilla Destiny the initial product and DLC's and/or Silver the support contract) [a typical product plus support subscription model] They're actively delivering, at this point, a typical game where you bought is what you get, and that's it other than some basic server maint [an old school you buy it As Is software model; and the most common console game model] So, the reasoning that you've discussed above makes perfect sense, now that things are where they are. But there was a profound failure of expectation management that lingers to this day, presumably b/c someone sees values in encouraging steadily more irritated players to keep coming back in hopes of getting something new. I question whether going "Look, we ran out of money for Destiny 1 and we all had fun, we'll keep the servers up and IB up etc, but we'll see you all in Destiny 2 soon with new stuff!" wouldn't have been a better idea in early 2016. If Bungie got ad revenue from players their behavior would make a lot more sense. I think you highly overestimate how much Bungie cares about Activision's stock price, since they are a partner, not a corporate parent.[/quote] " I figured I would say something about this, since half of the -blam!-ing community never cared to actually get aware of what is happening. The people giving Bungie shit are doing good, but they're being ignored. What happened to "raise your voice or be a face in the crowd"? Feedback goes nowhere and I personally believe that it's complete and utter bullshit. It's people like me that are trying to turn this whole thing around for the better, I've tried being polite about this shit, but I just can't do it anymore. We've all been lied to, multiple times. The problem is that nobody notices. I don't want to stand by and watch this game go down, I really don't. I want to see Bungie redeem themselves and I want to see it done fast. I love what was, not what is. You idiots have dug yourselves into a hole, and it just keeps getting deeper. It's almost like you guys are praying that if you dig deep enough, you could find a nice flight of stairs to escape. It's not gonna happen. You know what I can't stand? Being lied to, and being let down. You know what's even worse? Being lied to and let down, more than once. There was no shortage of letdowns in with this game. Just to name a few: •Release •The Dark Below •House of Wolves •The Taken King •Certain Exotic Questlines •Kings Fall Challenge Mode Remember that thread I made about the Sleeper Simulant Quest a little while ago? The one where I was pissed about how lazy it was "designed"? I still remember before I actually got the gun, I got so many replies telling me that the quest wasn't over, how stupid I was for judging before it was fully seen, how I was jealous that I couldn't make a game like Destiny. The next day? Boy, sure made those guys look like idiots. I've seen what happens with shit like this. Now I've had enough of the -blam!-ing sheep in this community. You blind and spineless asskissers are the reason this game is dying! What about Challenge Mode? Guess what a whole bunch of people think of it. You guessed right; A massive. -blam!-ing. Letdown.Spoiler Alert - Click at your own risk My problem with Bungie right now is that they never prove me wrong. You know who always is wrong in the end though? The fanboys. I think you poor bastards have had enough. Every time new content is announced, you swarm the forums in a buzz about how great it'll be and how haters are just idiots! That's why Destiny is dying! That's why content releases are almost always massive letdowns! Bungie knows that the fanboys will keep chucking money at their screens, but they don't care. You guys have been played like -blam!-ing fiddles and you don't even notice! You need to realize how the original and awesome suggestions on the forums are put behind the nerf posts and swept under the rug! When was the last time you saw DeeJ on these forums? Not any time in the last month, I'll bet. What does Cozmo do? Gives the good posts the ol' "I'll tell the devs" and forgets about them. Don't you people see? Bungie doesn't care about us anymore! Don't try to pin this on Activision either, remember that Bungie signed the partnership contract. They know what you want, but they don't give one single -blam!- about us at all! Even Luke Smith mocks the community for being a bunch of blind money-throwing sheep! Bungie has no reason to go beyond expectations, because they know Halo already sealed their reputation. Bungie can't ever prove people like me wrong, this game and any content involving it are all just massive letdowns! Get it through your heads guys. If we don't start setting standards and stop blindly throwing cash, this game will die for good and Bungie will be immortalized as "that horrible company that milked their loyal fanbase for years and then spat in their fans faces". So I ask of you, community; Have you finally had enough? Are you with me? If you are, I need you to spread the word. •Copy/Paste this post wherever it seems appropriate to keep the cause alive •Frequently use #BumpForTruth •Stop pre-ordering, start waiting for reviews and gameplay. They can't silence us if we have strength in numbers! That's why I ask the help of those who're fed up with this treatment of the fans! I'm bound to be hit with a swift Ninja-Banhammer swing any moment now, so I need you guys to take this torch and keep it lit. A man alone can't change much, but if he rises with a team, change is possible. Please, I'm counting on every last one of you. Make Bungie understand what they're doing wrong. Don't let them kill a game with so much potential. Raise. Your. Voice. Make. Yourself. Heard. ~Anarchy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Destiny Community People complain about how toxic this community is. Yet they fail to realize this is simply the result of bungie's decisions. Think back to the last time you put hours of effort into this game and got nothing. You were frustrated right? You finally achieved something difficult and got... nothing. Hard mode King's Fall, finally beat Oryx and you get a 301 gun... What?! You spent hours running strikes in year 1 to get enough weapons parts for reforge rolls, to get that perfect perk set on your gun. Let's say it took over 100 rerolls at the gun smith. You love this gun and use it all the time in pve, it works just the way you like it. It perfectly matches your play style. Now it's useless in the Taken King raid and missions. You've put days worth of time into a game that could be great, only to see it devolve into microtransactions. This is after paying for DLC, which was really just cut content from vanilla destiny. You realize bungie is simply activi$ions bitch and is conditioning everyone to accept microtransactions, eventually leading to pay to win. This feeling you get is frustration, disappointment. The more often it happens, the more negative your feelings are about the game. This is simple psychology. Bungle specifically designed the game mechanics around psychological tendencies to get us to play more, like gambling addicts. The net result? Eventually everyone gets fed up, angry and disillusioned. I'm a day one customer and love what the game could be. It is incredibly frustrating watching bungie turn it into Farmville via microtransactions. So quit bitching about a toxic community. You'll join our ranks eventually. As we all know, the game is dying. These facts are simply the result of bungie's actions. "

Just the fact that they actually update us weekly, make updates and patches, an actually give a sliver of a crap for what we think is good enough for me. Most companies don't even care. Most games don't even get updated.