So I tried the Division "beta" yesterday. I really, really wanted to like the game. It claims to be a RPG based shooter/looter set in NYC. I'm from NYC so the 1-1 ratio of the city is what I mainly wanted to experience. I like Destiny and Diablo and WoW type of games. I loved Rainbow Six. Tom Clancy to me was synonymous with authenticity and detail. So your's truly went in looking to enjoy the beta. Unfortunately, what I saw was not a beta. It was an extremely limited and disappointing demo. Let's be clear this is a cover based shooter along the lines of Gears of War where the MoBs are Destiny-like bullet sponges. I don't like Gears of War. I have 3 of them too, but do not play them. The whole cover to cover to cover aspect simply isn't FPS to me. The Division is Cover based, with bulletsponge MoBs. That makes for very boring gun play and completely ruins any immersion. Immersion is important in a shooter. Gun Play is also important in a shooter. The Division just doesn't satisfy on either. I'm not sure if it's due to The Division being a 3rd person shooter, rather than a 1st person shooter but the gun play is extremely lack-luster and underwhelming. It simply doesn't "feel" right when you're shooting. There's no "snap". But worst of all, all the guns shoot Nerf Darts. When it takes 2 entire clips to the face to drop each Travon Martin clone whatever immersion there was evaporates as your brain tries to reconcile that 60 bullets to the face seems to be meaningless. Unless you're shooting Nerf Darts that is. Be it an alien...or a robot...or the taken...it's easy to suspend belief when 2000 bullets simply seem to bounce off the boss. But when the "Boss" is simply some bro in a Hugo Boss Hoodie it shouldn't take hundreds of bullets to kill him. I mean, hello....it's called TOM CLANCY'S THE DIVISION. Tom Clancy being the important part here. Realism. Why the heck are real world guns in the game if the in game shooting was going to be unrealistic? Why is it even called Tom Clancy if realism wasn't a factor? To me, that's a just a straight up lie. As such, damn this game and whatever lies they plan to spew a few months from now. I'm from NYC and the Devs said months ago that all 5 boroughs would be in the game. Well the "beta" only had a few blocks of Manhattan and based what I saw Brooklyn wasn't part of the game at all. Maybe in a DLC? But after playing the Beta, there's no way I'd want to play all 5 boroughs without some sort of faster than walking travel option. The GPS doesn't always give the fastest route. This causes long delays from one mission to the next as you tour the city. Even worse is that rarely was there some kind of event taking place so it's a long, uneventful 3-5 minute run from checkpoint to checkpoint. Which wouldn't be so bad if the game looked the way it did in advertisements. The Division looks very good. That said, it looks so much worse than it did almost 3 years ago. It's still pretty, but it's nothing impressive and certainly not what was advertised. The map, in the previews was displayed on the floor...great idea. However in game, it's this full screen dealie that will get you killed in PvP because you can't see anything at all if the map is up. When I brought the map up for the first time I felt bamboozled and grateful that I didn't pay for this game. The loot is anti-climactic and unimpressive. Was playing with buddies. Something blue dropped...turned out to be knee-pads. Got a suppressor soon after and thought the silencer would help come up with new tactics...nope. The silencer only reduced threat levels. "Threat" as if there's tanking involved in a cover based 3rd person shooter. The AI is extremely stupid. The Boss on one of the 2 missions available in the "beta" climbed up a long ladder while I was shooting at him. And then he climbed right back down the ladder, all the while I'm shooting and killing him. The AI will leap from cover to stand out in the open shooting. In addition to being stone stupid, the MoBs are unrealistic. Again, it's called "Tom Clancy", authenticity is supposed be included. Shooting some hoodie wearing thug in the face 90 times isn't Tom Clancy realistic. Hitting someone in the temple with a sniper round, should NOT display numbers. His whole head should come off. Unless of course this is NERF of Nothing! The Division suffers from expectations related to it's licence (Tom Clancy) that it simply can't surmount. Without major changes. For instance...bullet-sponge MoBs have to go. It would have made much more sense to have more enemies that die quickly rather than way too long shootouts with Nerf guns. That'd be more much realistic than this current nonsense. If the MoBs simply overwhelmed you with numbers forcing retreat...that'd be so much better than hitting 5 people with a grenade only to have them literally shake it off and keep shooting. PvP is an absolute joke. Here's why...everyone in the zone starts off as neutral. If they shoot you, they become "red" to everyone and are supposedly worth lots of Exp, cash and loot if you kill this "rogue agent". However there's huge problems with this. For starters if you defend yourself from being shot, you too, go rogue. If you shoot someone while rogue, your rogue timer increases. It's not like you can hide from everyone else either because rogue agents show up on the map so everyone will simply keep coming for you. That's fine...it's actually not so terrible, but the problem is that the whole thing is gear based. Better guns simply do more damage. Meaning those that race to max level will simply roll over those that take their time. This aspect combined with the way the loot works means damn PvP. You have to send the loot out from a helicopter that shows up after you call it from a designated space and WAIT for over a minute for the copter to show. During that wait, groups of people who camped the helipad will attack you and steal your loot. Another thing that needs to be changed is the damn loot. It's simply not exciting nor rewarding. Knee pads. Gun Grips. Shotguns...its a cover based shooter. Why the heck would a I use a shotgun?! May as well Titan Smash Valus Ta'aurc. The game needs a 1st person mode. It's a shooter. 1st person view should have been a no brainer. Gun play sufferers greatly because of the disconnected feel of the 3rd person view. Don't get me wrong. 3rd person works in a lot of shooters. GTA mainly, however The Division doesn't use tried and true GTA controls. There isn't even a jump key. Worse of all about the Division is that I simply never got into it. It never drew me in and I tried. In the Danger Zone (or whatever it's called) I was never having fun. I kept thinking about the Crucible or actually playing GTA 5 online. I was thinking about starting a new character in Dragon Age Inquisition...didn't play through as a mage and I want to. At one point I checked to see if Terraria was available for Xbox backwards compatibility yet. I mean there's no way I'm buying the xbone version if it's the same as the 360 I already paid for. I found myself thinking about Batman, and remembered I never finished the last one! Overall, taken on it's own. The game might be fun...for about a week. But when compared with what's already available or even compared to what was SHOWN in earlier builds and I gotta pass on this and warn others to steer clear! [quote][b]Ninja edit:[/b] [spoiler]This thread has been moved to the #Gaming forum. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/140396851/0/0]See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Gaming tag and its uses. 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