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Bearbeitet von KingSlayerKat:
2/14/2016 12:31:35 AM
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For people who think Sunsingers need a nerf....
According to this chart which I stole from Guardian.gg, Sunsingers have the second lowest KDR, which is equal to Nighstalkers. While Bladedancers have the highest KDR, gunslinger coming in second.
If it was really overpowered, people would be doing amazing with it and the KDR would be much higher. What this means is that the abilities are not strong enough to override skill, and therefore, not overpowered.
Edit: the purpose of the chart is not to call anything OP. All the stats are within 0.10, which is not that big of a difference.
The actual KDR value of sunsinger is 1.01 while bladedancer is 1.11.
All the classes are essentially equal.
NOTHING needs a nerf.
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People are gonna find something to bitch about one way or another. Even if sunsinger did deserve and get a nerf all the baddies like yourself would just complain about what you were killed the most with next.
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1 AntwortenI don't think you base how something is OP on how people play.
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Lol lowest kd because ots a cheap class for scrubs who need an extra life and op grenades. Not to mention a one hit melee. This thread proves nothing.
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Yeah a class where pressing L1 and tagging someone means: kill, trade, gain map control. You right
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Class k/d is a bad way to balance things off. Nightstalker, bladedancer, and gunslinger have high k/d's because the higher skill players stick with them and don't jump around like the lower skilled, players who judge a class purely off the super.
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15 AntwortenHere's why: [spoiler]Better players play Hunter because in skilled hands it is great. And worse players use Sunsinger because it caters to -blam!-ing up and being an all around shitty player.[/spoiler]
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5 AntwortenYou notice how all of the meta classes have worse K/Ds than classes not talked or complained about? It's because the skilled players find a subclass that fits their playstyle, fights through the balance, and doesn't switch to others for an advantage.
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20 AntwortenI don't understand why people don't use radiant skin. It's so fun to use. And so rewarding
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imo i dont see why the k/d chart is so low but anyway sunsinger just isnt as effective super as gg or striker so they need a near op melee and grenade to balance is
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Well, ask top players. The real reason why BD is used the most, is for quickdraw
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13 AntwortenBearbeitet von Why So Searious: 2/14/2016 1:43:48 AMAccording to this chart (also from guardian.gg by the way), sunsinger warlocks have a higher win % than any other subclass in trials. [spoiler]Not saying anything should be nerfed but you might want to have a bit more info[/spoiler] & it's a bit biased to compare sunsinger kd to that of any other subclass because they essentially have more lives due to fireborn which leads to more deaths than other subclasses.
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Bearbeitet von C4: 2/14/2016 5:06:55 PMThe reason for that also is revive sniping Which means warlocks will die more because they get a 2nd life and no one else does
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They should do what they did with thorn , they need the damage taken from 7 to somewhere around 3-5 doesn't make the grenade utterly useless because duration is the problem but you can't get rid of that because that would make one perk useless
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5 AntwortenWhile I agree that nothing needs a nerf, the fact of the matter is, one of the reasons that Sunbreaker got nerfed was because they want all subclasses to be around 1 KD ratio. Sunbreaker having a 1.06 was too high, with bungie logic the ne next 2 subclasses on the chopping block are Gunslinger and blade dancer. Which is total crap if you ask me because while I may not be the greatest player I still like challenge each subclass brings to the table when fighting them in pvp.
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Where my defender love at yo?
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Sunsigers would be higher if they stopped playing fast and loose with their self rez powers. Really though, buff everything. When everyone's op...no one will be!
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Thank you.
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I never knew defender would get such a good k/d
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Hey look! Space saber and golden penis are at the top! What a coincidence!
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Okay I would believe your chart once I saw the date this was made and the fact that Hunters outnumber every other class. So seeing a chart on kill count wouldn't make sense. But on kill percentages and K/D percentage would.
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5 AntwortenI like how nobody cared about sunsingers what so ever in year one and Now everybody in year two is like OMG bungie #plsnrf sunsingers OP OP OP Viking funeral and firebolt super effective Sunsingers also sunsingers should be looked at and NERFED or I leave. And I'm over here like bro \(•_•)/ what the frick This proves that this community will rant about anything that they can't compensate for in Crucible. They were the same thing in year one.
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Bearbeitet von MeNa59: 2/14/2016 4:10:09 AMYou're actually stupid. In essence, the interpretation of this graph is so far independent of what is op and what needs a nerf, they do don't correlate at all. This graph just mean those who use hunters have a better kd because they either camp etc or they are literally better players (can hold decent kds consistently) lol
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3 AntwortenI think the warlock omnigul bond spikes need to nerfed. They are totaly op.
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LMAO wow!!!!! A .1 kd difference!! Go home everyone! This graph is totally not misleading in any way!!!!! This proves everything!!!!!
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Yet another PvP scrub talking about PvP.
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There are exceptions to every class. However the only problem I have with sunsingers are the firwbolts with viking funeral. Not only can you not heal, but you get burned almost to death. One tap. But if you are a low light level in trials or iron banner, you're dead. Other than that I think its a solid class
