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Bearbeitet von Varlerie:
2/4/2016 3:44:01 PM
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Firebolt with ToF and Viking Funeral
I'm tired of seeing nerf posts. I personally think that they're fine. I just want to know who stands where on this argument.
Edit: Okay, I was too paranoid. Most of the community agrees that they aren't OP. I guess the few just create more threads.
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#Destiny
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24 AntwortenWell considering it requires your [b]ENTIRE[/b] subclass to be decent, it's not OP at all. Lightning grenade does more damage (by about 3) per tick than Firebolt grenade with full burn. Lightning grenade ticks 5 times. It requires no additional perks to be better than Firebolt. You can also have two Lightning grenades and increase the amount of ticks to make it even better than Firebolt with full burn. Skip grenade does about 5 more damage than a full burn Firebolt and it has better tracking than Axion and tracks longer. Skip also requires no additional perks to be better than Firebolt. Also, I don't even know why this is an argument. There are at least 3 grenades that are better than Firebolt on the other classes and Firebolt is the only of those that literally requires the user to sacrifice every customizable perk just for it to be decent. Also, Sunsinger is literally the class based around grenades and fire.
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It's fine just sucks to see a whole trials team running it...
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5 AntwortenComing from someone who plays a fair amount of Warlock, it's broken, I notice it caters to me messing up, kills that I don't deserve by any means I get.
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Absolutely fine. Of course it's frustrating when you're on the wrong side of it.
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Wheres overrated?
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No one wants to admit that theyre underpowered because they dont want them to get nerfed
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The few stupid are usually louder than the smart majority. Don't worry about the forums.
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4 AntwortenCan't wait to run sunsinger and thorn in doubles next week. Everyone will burn out before they can kill me. ;)
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3 AntwortenIll take my 2, 1hk, sticky, tracking fusion nades and extended radiance over 1, almost kill nade. Honestly idk why that build is getting so much hype, its not that great
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57 AntwortenHere's a counter to all the -blam!-tards saying it's over powered- Sunsinger is based around it's powerful grenades and Melee abilities. The super is lackluster, with no special offensive abilities at all, other than a flaming "shoot me" target around you and weak grenade generation. If you nerf the only good thing the subclass has [u]in a class based around it's grenades [/u] what do you think is going to happen to the rest of the class?
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2 AntwortenPenis poll with a normal penis, giant left ball, and an extremely small right ball
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1 AntwortenIn normal crucible, one fire bolt grenade with those settings and one thorn shot means your dead I think. Just imagine it if they release a year 2 thorn.
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When you say something is OP, you're kinda indirectly saying its unbalanced and needs to be changed (nerfed).
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*sigh* I wouldn't expect the majority to understand...
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I'm okay with a grenade that's tossed near a group and instantly hits up to 3 in the set radius. I'm ok with the extra damage from burning. I just want it to be over with faster. It does slightly more damage than a lightning grenade burst over 4-5 seconds so if anything touches you, you're dead. Plus there's no chance of the user being hurt from the grenade itself. It could use a slight, SLIGHT tweak somewhere along the line. Not nerfed into oblivion like most things Bungie touches, but a small change
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Mabye we should just get rid of everything so the crybabies won't complain about stuff
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I use that and thorn on my warlock.
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Only op because to my knowledge it can tag multiple enemies. Damage/range is fine.
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2 AntwortenOh, you're upset that a grenade lowers your health? Maybe you should play Mario Kart
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7 AntwortenBearbeitet von kallmepapaa: 2/5/2016 5:33:17 PM"Firebolt Grenades are broken!" Lightning grenades do the same damage as a full burn Firebolt in just [b]ONE[/b] tick. They tick multiple times. "Warlock melee range along with overshield on hit!" Front-Stab, Shoulder Charge, Throwing Knife + Burn, Smoke Grenade all are more insane and have longer range than warlock melee. Shoulder Charge isn't even a Melee Ability! "Self Rez!" Shotgun + Melee Fusion Rifle + Melee Sniper Headshot (+ Melee in rare cases) Grenade + Melee Super Before you say "Every other super can be shut down as easily," guess what? [b]All of the above tactics can be completed before his Self-Revive Animation finishes[/b] If you can't counter a Sunsinger, perhaps you need to "git gud" or need to master your own Melees and grenades. Smoke + Grenade combo is better than firebolt. Skip grenade is better than firebolt because of the better tracking than Axion and equal damage to a firebolt nade. Lightning Grenade is easily the best grenade in PvP especially since the Titan can have two with increased ticks! Suppression ends both the warlocks super and grenade for a while. Just a smoke grenade placed correctly can shut down the warlock for a few seconds as they fight to escape the slowing + blinding + damage. Firebolt without both Touch of Flame and Viking Funeral is easily the worst grenade in Destiny, doing less than the damage of arc bolt without faster bolting and no chaining. Also, just for Firebolt to be as "OP" as you have stated, the warlock has to sacrifice every single build perk just for the grenade and they don't even get to hold two of them.
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It's for newbs who can't pvp
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1 AntwortenI vote penis poll.
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7 AntwortenIf you're gonna nerf firebolts, you need to nerf lightnings and smoke grenades too.
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I'm mostly done with it cause no-one uses it in 6v6. But trials? Maaannnn... [i]Shot in the foot by a scout rifle Firebolt is thrown Panic Slowly burns to death Last living member of the fireteam Dies[/i]
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Viking Funeral needs a nerf. Search your feelings...... You know it to be true
