Bungie, please look at it. The way it is it cant be right.
I have played IB the entire day. Not for rep because i hit rank 5 yesterday, but for loot drops. I intended to grind it to get a perfect chest piece for my warlock and a 320 ghost. I was expecting a grind for perfect rolls and if i was lucky the ghost, but in the end after the entire day of playing i only got [b]1 scout with bad rolls. [/b] A entire day of playing and only that drop is not how it supposed to be right?
I know Destiny is grinding and i have nothing against that, but changes of loot drops being this low is not grinding. Right now the game doesnt feel rewarding in any way.
I am not asking to just hand us loot, but i have played more then 20 matches today. You would suggest that you atleast get like 3 or 4 rewards. Especially since i already grinded to rank 5. And since i didnt get any gear drop in that time, i kinda was hoping it would drop then.
So please Bungie, i am begging you to take a look at RNG and loot drops in general. Make the game feel rewarding again so it is worth grinding.
I know i will grind again tomorrow, but i am scared that it wont bring me anything. I am legit scared that i am just wasting my time.
[u]edit:[/u] was asked to change the tag to Feedback instead of Destiny. Was told it would have more changes to be seen by devs. Maybe even Cozmo and Deej may grand me there opinions now.
[b]edit:[/b] since Banner has ended for me, and a few more minutes for the others, i decided to make this edit and will try to keep the post up so Bungie will see it and hopefullu act. I have played around 75 matches after i hit rank 5. 75 matches and the only things i gotten were a 317 ghost, scout with decent perks and a pair of boots. So that is [i]1 reward every 25 matches. [/i] How can RNG be this punishing for the grinders?
If i had gotten drops during my grind to rank 5 i would have understood it a little, a little but not that much. You want us to grind, but will not reward the grind. You have to act Bungie, this is pushing people away faster then new games are coming.
We all know Destiny is grinding. We all are willing to do that but right now we are not rewarded for that grinding. Right now its just a big lottery. "Will RNG bless you? Nope try again for the next 10 weeks." Because thats how long i am waiting for a 320 ghost for example.
Someone in the reply's below said this:
Destiny is a loot based game that doesnt reward loot.
I am sorry to say this but that is very true. And that is also what is pushing me away from the game i love. Why else would i have over 2000 hours in this game?
[b]last edit: [/b] i am going to make this last edit. Unless i get a reply from Bungie, all i will do is bumbing it forward.
[i]Your reward system is not rewarding. Instead it is punishing players that are grinding. And for what reason? So we play longer? So we dont leave the game since we have a 320 light character? [/i]
That isnt right Bungie. It is working against you every day more and more. Instead of letting people play longer, it is pushing people away from playing. It is making them feel like they are wasting there time.
The game has such a strong and amazing feeling to it. It can keep itself alive even with a more rewarding RNG. Why? Because there is always a item to aim for. And even if you have all the items, you want it all to be max light. So you will keep on playing. And that player who will have everything at highest light possible will leave untill new content come, but he will have so much playtime that it doesnt matter.
My personal experience right now is that Destiny is pushing me away. The combonation of being dissapointed with loot drops every week and not getting item then i am aiming for no matter what light they are is making me frustrated with Destiny. Like the post says, i grinded the hell out of IB rift. Not just for that 320 ghost, but also for a chest piece with the perks i wanted. But instead of getting chest pieces that just didnt have the god perks for me, they didnt drop at all. Nothing dropped. 2 days of grinding and nothing to show for it. If weapons and gear dropped with bad perks, i atleast had the marks and materials for dismanteling then. Then it would have gave me the feeling of just not getting the roll i wanted, but i tried.
[b]Fun[/b] needs to be brought back to Destiny. A RNG that rewards the player for all the grinding that he or she is doing. Thats when players will come back instead of leaving.
And maybe this will help. These are the things i want to do. A real list of grinding that i have since TTK came out and still stuck on number 1.
1: reach max light.
2: max light with the armor stats and perks for the subclass i am using in the raid (int-dis-str)
3: have max light with armor stats and perks for all subclasses
4: all exotics gear and weapons collected and at max light.
5: using every weapon and decide for myself what is good or bad about them and if they fit me as player.
6: weapons that i liked, getting good rolls for them.
7: getting those good rolls to max light.
Those are just a few. In year 1 it was alot easier to become max light and have weapons at max light. Rerolling made it easy to have the perks you want on weapons. Even too easy in my opinion. But atleast it was a more rewarding grind then it is now.
And with that i will end this post. It is a wall of text right now so to short it for those not willing to read it all:
[u]RNG is not rewarding the players that are grinding the game. This needs to be looked at and fixed. It is pushing people away instead of letting them play longer and more hours. [/u]
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At least in borderlands you can farm a boss as much as you want for good loot, instead of having to wait a week every time
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I feel like I get less drops in rank 5 than 3 and 4. Could just be me. Idk. On Monday I played all day and only got the thoughtcrime(perfectly fine with me because that's all I wanted for the last 3 ib's)
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1 AntwortenRng is rng, deal with it! I bet you don't go crying nerf to the lottery company about rng???
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1 AntwortenGot to rank 5. Only a legendary engram...
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3 AntwortenDo you only play on one character? That could be your problem. A widely accepted theory on RNG is that each character slot has different percentages for their loot tables. For example someone's titan could get a hell of a ton of armor drops, while their warlock gets weapons, and their hunter gets engrams and post match rewards. My hunter gets a million Treads Upon Stars and Imago Loops, but can't get flayer capes or Grasp of Malok, or raid armor. My Titan (when I had one) would get armor drops at every single chance possible. My hunter has gotten a ton of Colovance's Duty's after matches in IB, but literally no other drops other than a 320 ghost. So if you're only playing one character in IB, that's your problem bro.
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1 AntwortenI love the loot system I do a match get 2 kills and 16 deaths and get a ash factory with tripod and grenades and horseshoes lol
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6 AntwortenNow I feel guilty... Just going to rank 5 I got a scout, 3 boots, and a chest.
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1 Antwortenthere was a game on an old system, I can't remember what it was, but, I remember creating a warlock.. went through the game several times and by that point I had everything.. I was a god.. did I stop playing.. nope.. I kept that old system for a long time just to play as my god character on a game that had bad graphics, not much story but, it was fun to play as a character that could very nearly not die... why does bungie think we will all quit once we hit max light.. once there its fun to be the king, high powered weapons, great armor, keep playing to get other great weapons etc.. the loot is too few and far between as op states.. but why? is it to keep those that play alot from getting to far ahead of the casuals? if thats the answer the rebutal is that we can only use 1 of each weapon and gear item at a time.. it doesn't matter if we have everything and the casual doesn't.. is it that the want to extend the grind.. trust me.. I will keep playing after i hit max light.. for fun.. remember thats what this game is supposed to be.. I read lots of people schedule things in this game and find that everything is regimented... like its work.. a game shouldn't feel like work.. We are loyal destiny players.. we have legitimate beefs and have for such a long time and we never seem to get answers.. we complain about iron banner and then we get told oh, we made a mistake.. drops will be better.. but, arn't.. we complain that we lost what made nightfall great, the xp boost, the faction rep boost, the flaming blue head and the loot was subpar.. we get told it will be made better.. yup for a week or two maybe it got better.. now I get a blue engram as a reward.. or a mote of light.. ONE MOTE OF LIGHT ARE YOU KIDDING ME.. END GAME ACTIVITY AND I GET A MOTE OF LIGHT.. REALLY THIS IS WHAT YOU THINK IS A GOOD REWARD? we have yet another pvp event with some fancy new rules and that will last a week and we are expected to get excited about that.. I bought the game to play all of it not half of it.. pvp can be fun but, we need more content.. news that destiny 2 is going to be delayed and bungie is quite.. why not either confirm or deny it.. put us at ease.. COMMUNICATE.. let us feel like we are part of the process instead of just your money tree.
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http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/DUBSTEP%20TRIPPA/video/11039727
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1 Antwortenbungie has failed at a loot based game. never buying into their crap again. they have failed us all.
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von Tempest: 2/4/2016 12:25:52 AM
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1 AntwortenGreat post Bumpitybump and signed
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2 AntwortenThey don't care. Plain and simple. We have begged to no results. They just want us to grind and grind with no good rewards.
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10 AntwortenBearbeitet von G: 2/4/2016 10:57:52 AMI can't tell you how many SRL races I have played and never got a 320 helmet. I just need one single 320 helmet... ONE. Every Golgoroth challenge gave me 320 gauntlets or 320 chest piece. All i really need are boots. Just one pair of -blam!-ing boots!!! Every Oryx challenge only gave me 320 primaries. All I need was ONE 320 helmet. Iron Banner just laughs at me. I have a 320 ghost, but I need a different one. Trials is a joke, but at least you know you're going to get something at a certain amount of wins. Crimson Doubles is probably...... well [i]it is[/i] going to be just as bad. Still no Party Crasher. NL Shadow? What's that? Rare engrams [b]never[/b] turn into legendaries for me.
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1 AntwortenSorry OP you've become a victim of Bungie's ineptitude. Players have been unhappy with drops since September 2014 but nothing significant has changed. This is part of the reason why many are playing less, not playing at all or angry/upset in general. TTKs loot system is in the worst state it has ever been in when it should be in the best position. People have been unhappy, specifically, with King's Fall loot since September but 4 months later they've done jack shit about it. Challenge mode is essentially apology mode but even that keeps giving 320 artifacts instead of mixing it up with ghosts and class items. We, as a community, are at a decisive place in time. We must decide whether we want change or not. I have stepped away from Destiny for this reason.
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1 AntwortenDivision has their loot system on point js.
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von BIGwillestylz: 2/4/2016 10:47:50 AMThey will flip a coin heads they look at it tails they won't.
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1 AntwortenMy only beef with the RNG is that 90% of the legendary engrams I find are class items.
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All I wanted is a helmet from Iron Banner for my Titan, but what do I get? Two helmets for my other character :c
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2 AntwortenI agree that reward/loot system seems pretty unfair,specialy for grinders like you said you are. That said,imo bungie knows about this and will never do nothing about it! I mean realy nothing! Because this way most players will keep grinding and grinding and playing and come to the forums talk about it, and Destiny will keep very much alive instead of dying like many people like to write about. If you got all the loot you want in 5 IB Matches would you still make the other 70 Matches? Most players certanly wouldnt..so you kept playing and bungie/destiny wins(because at least you kept playing their game instead of just go play another one) . You even come to forums make a post about it..who wins again? (In this case we are still on their forums talking about their game) Same principle goes for raids,trials,crucible,strikes,NF,arms oders perks,exotics drop rates..etc I still agree with your opinion but bungie has so many examples of other games that exist for many years now and were so profitable, that they just have to folow their companys ideals to make their money,wich is exactily whats happening right now.
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7 AntwortenRNG works perfectly. Whether or not the system appeals to your interests as a gamer is an entirely different can of worms.
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6 Antwortenthis needs to stop, i am at my 51 hard mode raids and stuck at 319, i cant gat a 320 ghost to save my live ontop of that i played 47 ironbanner games after reaching rank 5 trying to grind for a 320 ghost with no result getting a weapon with good rolls is a nightmare the gap between what lucky and unlucky people can achieve has to get way narrower than it is now not so fun fact: said gap is not just wide at the moment,it theoreticaly can be infinite, i have graduated statistics and actuarial math i know better than anyone that pure RNG doesnt play nice