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1/31/2016 4:10:49 PM
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Do Not Tamper with Iron Banner!
Wow...I am amazed. I am amazed at how when this dev team finds the right formula and it becomes widely accepted amongst your player base you feel compelled to change what already works!! Iron Banner has ALWAYS BEEN CONTROL!! ALWAYS!! Iron Banner is the shining star of the PVP community and you guys are destroying the experience! Rift OMG is not the answer. This is NOT a team based game! There is hardly any use of strategy here. Everyone is drawn to center of the map for a meat grinding fest. The last 2 or 3 standing grab the ball only to be annihilated at the drop zone because the opposing team has respawned there before you reach the goal! If you choose to split your team up to grab the rift ball and to flank you will most likely lose the rift battle or half your team is out of position. In order for rift to work ability specials as in "mayhem" have to be more available. Else its to much ground to cover. Also your current maps do not have enough free lanes to get back to the rift spot quickly enough. Listen do not tamper with the Banner! You will lose or have already lost a huge base of players for these events in the future. Restore it to default and DON'T THINK. LEAVE IT BE!...thank you.
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Maybe you just have a shit team Hahahaha it is a team based game, it's literally destinys version of Uplink. http://youtu.be/5_QpzPYYN2E I had fun anyway, even tho I despise the game mode
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Rift was the worst. I survived it. Not enjoyed it like I always have in the past but survived it. Only went on Friday when I normally play all week just because I enjoy it. Got three to rank 5 in as little time as possible and out of there. Found myself rage cashing in bounties to rank out faster and be done with it. Yes Bungie I am now a well rounded rift player. Can run that spark with the best of them. That being said you can bet ya I won't play a match of it again in normal crucible matches. Rewards were not that good either. The scout is bettered by most any scout you can pick up in the game. The rank 5 rewards I got had nothing above 315 light. Also the items themselves were not good in terms of perks. Just a rather garbage Iron banner in general and topped off by it being the worst selection of game modes possible.
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I agree. Rift is by far the worst and least enjoyable game mode for me.
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5 AntwortenI spend more time browsing the forums than i do playing the game. Probably 4:1 ratio if not higher. What i've seen since october 2014: The happiest the community EVER was, overall mind you, was 2 IBs ago when it was clash. There were so many less complaints. control is ok but clash is the best. Everyone can play it and everyone SEEMED to enjoy it, or so the "flow" of the posts would indicate during that week. This is clearly not a scientific assessment and just anecdotal evidence as seen through my eyes. So, take it for what you will. I decided that during rift IB and crimson thing that i would not play either one at all. Never made a "boycott IB" thread, never forced my ideas on anyone. It's just that if you don't like something then don't play it. If enough people do that then it won't come back. It's simple. Your post, my post, john j jerkoff's post? They all mean nothing. You must speak to Bungie in THEIR language. The speak data. Numbers, specifically. "how many people logged on and for how long?" that's the stuff they care about. SO, log on if you support it, don't log on if you don't like it. That's how to communicate with the developers. No self righteous bullshit just fact. Pass the word along and we'd all have a more receptive developer on our hands. i promise that
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[quote]Iron Banner has ALWAYS BEEN CONTROL!! ALWAYS!![/quote] Iron Banner is a system for rep/xp/loot - that is all. The game mode within it doesn't matter. Make it IB clash so there's no objective. This equally suits randoms or teams. If they are going to do rift again, remove all kill scores except for or against the runner.
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I certainly agree with your assessment here. Rift is a moronic free for all which is pretty much as you described above. As much as everyone talks about strategy in Rift there is a ton of luck. I brought 3 characters to Rank 5 but it was not the least bit of fun. I hope they don't do this foolishness again.
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Rift is the ultimate "team" mode. If you don't have cohesion the runner won't get to the rift in most cases. Clash is the ultimate solo mode. It's team deathmatch for all intents and purposes and no team work is needed. One really good pvp player could almost carry a team through a match. Control is a good mix for both. I was glad to see rift in IB and I hope it goes to a rotation of all 3. Sometime id like to see a rotation with all 3 in the same week like the classic 6v6 maps do. You will not know what mode it is until shaxx tells you
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2 AntwortenAnyone else read tampon instead of tamper. :/ Maybe it's just me
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Yup. Rift has brought my KD down by 0.15 in the one day I played. Stupid to have a game variant where slaying is not the objective for Iron Banner. And when you have a bunch of people who can't play rift, you find yourself having to be then gung ho one trying to salvage a match. Bull crap.
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Destiny pvp a shining star, it's more like the black hole
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1 AntwortenI sort of agree with you. They should have never made rift to be an iron banner game type, not saying that it shouldn't be made. Clash and control are a better iron banner game type and they should have kept it as that. Bungie is trying too hard to bring new elements into the game in my opinion. SRL and emotes and stuff are fine, but brining back the old raids and making them relevant again would be so much better.
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2 AntwortenIf salad-man wasn't selling a scout rifle with OMFG-JIZZ-MY-PANTS rolls I think there would only be a tiny amount of players even doing Iron Banner this month. That scout rifle is the ONLY reason I bothered to play IB at all this month when IB has always been the #1 most exciting thing in destiny every month for me. As soon as it ends I'm like "OMG I can't wait until the next Iron Banner!" This month, I can barely stand doing more than a few matches. to me it's not even fun when I win! That just feels WRONG to me. the BEST Iron Banner I've ever played was when it was CLASH (2nd month of TTK?) 1.) it was clash; the simplest and most "skill" based mode there is. Anybody can do it, everyone understands it, and the only way to fail is to just be completely terrible at the core basis of the game; shooting/fighting. If your team loses; well that's because the enemy kicked your ass. not because there was some communication breakdown or you didn't guess the right path the spark runner was going or get repeatedly spawn-killed like in rift. 2.) they had not yet ruined the loot rewards by making the post-game rewards the same types as what is sold. I was MUCH happier with absolute random rewards. During that clash week, I got a hand cannon, pulse rifle, machine gun, chest armor, etc. it was great. In year 1, I got so much cool stuff and didn't dismantle any until TTK (hell, I still kept my Effrideets Spear!). This year, I keep 1 or 2 of the drops and just dismantle/infuse all the rest...it's a downgrade and does not feel as rewarding. I hope Bungie learned a lesson as to why most people hate rift; it's just a badly flawed game mode that doesn't fit in with anything else in the game. Only a small group of players want to play that space-basketball garbage. I think Bungie made IB Rift so they can figure out why not many people are taking part of the new game mode they worked so hard on for TTK. there was a quickly growing/trending (~100+ upvotes per day) petition to remove rift as soon as the weekly update dropped. Deej responded and just took a sh*t on it basically saying they don't care and there is nothing we can do to change it. Negative threads were popping up everywhere and quickly trending ... then all of a sudden the layout is different and I can't find them unless I dig into my browser history. hmm. Coincidence? I think not. I think the best solution would be to make Iron Banner completely random for each match. selecting a random mode of Clash, Control, and Rift (preferably no rift at all, but I wouldn't mind having to do it occasionally) in a completely random map instead of just a few selected maps with one specific mode.
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1 AntwortenThe absolute best is when people get heavy ammo and spawn camp you that's just awesome
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THANK YOU!
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1 AntwortenAre you only now realizing bungie devs are utter morons? Have you seen their 'balancing' efforts?
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Lol havent seen a bad decision like this since they nerfed weapon parts when everyone wanted more. They eventually got it right but geez it takes them a while.
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I do enjoy control more it is a little more predictable. I did enjoy IB rift. I had some ok random teams. I usually played with one or two other players and that was usually enough to sway the game. What I did find was too many people were too worried about their kd to grab the spark which allowed the other team to get the spark most of time. So I had to change my play style which made things interesting. Overall I enjoyed more than clash but I still prefer control.
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Rift Is a terrible choice compared to control. But I carried on through all of the matches and bounties and got a great scout and the vendor fusion rifle that I just bought has insane range and I couldn't pass that up. Plus I started out in Ib with 257 light...after everything I'm up to I think around 298(when I have my best stuff equipped).
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i just did the bounties every day,playing the objective just got to frustrating after my seventh loss,then throwing me in to losing games just took the biscuit
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Agreed! Rift is garbage as far as IB goes, especially since they have a weekly bounty requiring a player to get the top score. This results in a bunch of people just sitting by the spark spawn, hoping to grab it because they know this is about the only way to get the top score in a game. I've played plenty of games where I was the top as far as kills went and came in 3rd or lower in ranking for the match.
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Agreed. Rift continues to be aggressively unpleasant. And what do we get for all the grind to lvl 5? BLUE DROPS AT 262??? For a 317 titan? Insult to injury. Bungie is running a social experiment on its hardcore destiny players to see how much hatred and loathing it can generate in its player base before we all quit. Too bad nobody signed a consent form for this sick experiment.
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I agree.when 2 guys are running the spark.and 4 guys are"caminping"ITS NOT SO FUN!!AND YOU ARE CORRECT.IRON BANNER HAS ALLWAYS BEEN CONTROL.
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I tend to play alone but I prefer Control over anything else. I've been lucky in Control that I usually get stuck with a good team.
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4 AntwortenControl is [b]horrible[/b] for iron banner. Most people play this game solo. Nothing is worse than winning in Control and then 1 idiot tries to triple cap and ends up flipping the spawns so the enemy starts spawning behind you. No thanks. Clash should be the default IB.
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1 Antworten[quote]In order for rift to work ability specials as in "mayhem"[/quote]
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[quote]Wow...I am amazed. I am amazed at how when this dev team finds the right formula and it becomes widely accepted amongst your player base you feel compelled to change what already works!! Iron Banner has ALWAYS BEEN CONTROL!! ALWAYS!! Iron Banner is the shining star of the PVP community and you guys are destroying the experience! Rift OMG is not the answer. This is NOT a team based game! There is hardly any use of strategy here. Everyone is drawn to center of the map for a meat grinding fest. The last 2 or 3 standing grab the ball only to be annihilated at the drop zone because the opposing team has respawned there before you reach the goal! If you choose to split your team up to grab the rift ball and to flank you will most likely lose the rift battle or half your team is out of position. In order for rift to work ability specials as in "mayhem" have to be more available. Else its to much ground to cover. Also your current maps do not have enough free lanes to get back to the rift spot quickly enough. Listen do not tamper with the Banner! You will lose or have already lost a huge base of players for these events in the future. Restore it to default and DON'T THINK. LEAVE IT BE!...thank you.[/quote] Whoever thought IB rift was a good idea is a bad person and should feel bad. I'm not a bad crucible player: my kd is around 1.2-1.3. But I suck at rift. Know why? Because I go in solo. IB is not a destiny a activity that should require that I go on lfg to find a group to have a good time. This has bee truly horrendous. I lost 9 games in a row the other day because I was repeatedly put on teams that didn't understand that rift is an objective based game. I imagine my teammates repeatedly said the following: "why does shaxx keep talking about a spark? I don't remember clash or control having a spark? Now that I think about it, I haven't seen any zones to capture. Oh well, better go die again so I can help the other team get more super energy!". It ridiculous. Destiny has been going way downhill lately what with the lack of new content and the lack of comunication. This awful IB might be the straw that breaks the camels back. IB should reward gun skill. Not how many friends you have online at a given time.
