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Bearbeitet von lxl R3APER lxl:
1/31/2016 2:04:48 PM
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Warlock Balancing?
Who thinks warlocks need rebalanced to make crucible fair.
What needs fixed:
Melee range
Over shield buff after melee
Fire bolts
Viking funeral/touch of flame
Storm caller super time
Edit 1:
Possible solutions that I've read or discussed with others.
Over shied only after a kill
Reduced fire bolt damage, make all grenades much stronger when in radiance
Transcendence tweek for storm caller
Btw I have a warlock before anyone gets upset. It's all a matter of opinion I'm open to counter arguments.
English
#Destiny
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13 AntwortenOnly problems are the time that grenades burn for with Viking funeral, Melee range is a bit much on a stormcaller but I think sunsingers should have maybe 5%-10% more health while in radiance
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Bearbeitet von Project Zero: 1/31/2016 1:56:02 PMF[b]u[/b]cking whiny retards and cry babies who ruined Destiny, at it again. Go figure!!!
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The whole point of sunsinger is too be a juggernaut for 10-15 seconds. The neutral game has to be strong. It is what makes warlocks unique.
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2 AntwortenSunsinger is herpes. Voidwalker on the other hand... Is amazing!
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Bearbeitet von Warlock: 1/31/2016 3:02:17 AMNerf all of that, and you take away what makes them unique, and the only strengths they have over other classes
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3 AntwortenI strongly disagree that sunsinger warlocks need a nerf. Yes we have good melee and firebolt grenades but: There are many grenades (mainly the titan thunderbolt grenade, hunter tripmine grenade and any sticky grenade) that can kill in one. The firebolt grenades can not, even with viking funeral+ touch of flame. Yes the burn is annoying but just take cover and recover in a lot of cases. Due to recent bugs melees dont always register. Resulted in a few rages myself :/ A final point is that sunsigners supers are next to useless and would argue that they are the weakest supers. Okay you get back up again and can get revenge on the person who killed you. But essentially as soon as you get up you become a giant golden target with no extra health or defence. So worst case scenario you get killed twice.
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29 AntwortenSince we're listing things that annoy us: Smoke bombs slow my movement AND damage me at the same time Titan punches deal AoE Blink strike turns hunters invisible Shadestep nullifies any tracking grenade Titans and Hunters both have OHK melees outside of super None of the abilities stated above need nerfed. None of the Warlock abilities you mentioned need nerfed. It's called adversity, fking deal with it or die
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von Ironterror58: 1/31/2016 1:12:48 PMQuick thing i want to say also this is not directed towards OP just to these nerf calls in general Sunbreaker reign=no warlock nerf calls Nightstalker reign=no warlock nerf calls [spoiler]this is just my way of looking at it[/spoiler]
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Bearbeitet von Ray-9: 1/31/2016 1:13:22 PMBut its okay for huntards to have wall hacks, smokes and shadestep. Different classes are better at different things, otherwise whats the point?
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All you have done is said generic warlock complaints in a list instead of actually stating what needs to be 'fixed'. I also disagree with mostly everything here. Melee range isn't that over the top, flame shield is the only usable thing in that column and is fairly easy to counter, you have to sacrifice two columns so that you can have the extended burn sacrificing a second grenade and increased super time and storm caller being the only damaging super which requires more than one hit should be longer (maybe reduce it a little but knowing bungie if they nerf it it will become useless)
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4 AntwortenNo. Sunsinger's super is now useless in regular PvP due to the last nerf (self res is still somewhat useful in Trials). The only thing that redeems it is Tlaloc. I don't really care if they nerf Stormcaller, it doesn't bother me but it did take the place of Sunbreakers when it comes to free super kills with no skill involved.
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1 AntwortenI think sunsinger without radiant skin is really dying too fast - even when using all buffs to armor.
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4 AntwortenBearbeitet von Racer X Go: 1/31/2016 11:08:47 AMDisagree with all of this. The only thing that is OP about the warlock is the Stormcaller melee. You can OHK a guardian with a sheild, a blade dancer, a res warlock, and it's not even the super for that class.
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So basically, you want to take everything that makes them good and throw it away cause you can't compete
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The grenades on sunsinger, not the grenades themselves but the viking funeral and the other perk on it need to be reworked
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Butthurt
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The melee range is fine, considering we cannot 1 shot, as Titans or Hunters can(Shoulder Chrage, Backstab). While the firebolt grenade combination with Viking funeral, etc, is pretty good, it's nothing too OP. The 1-shot Storm Grenade you could make an argument for, but I don't think it would be a good one. Storm caller time I think does need to be lessened. It seems to take forever. If you try to run away, they will eventually catch you or one of their friends will. That's my opinion on the matter and yours may be differing.
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Just think storm callers super range could do with a reduction. Don't think anything else needs to be changed to dramatically like you're suggesting.
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1 AntwortenSo you want to make them useless?
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3 AntwortenLet's see only problem with fire opt would be how long the burn lasts only needs a slight reduction What about blink strike no one ever complains about the range on that Plus if sunsingers didn't have an over shield with melee and the fire bolt combo the class would be useless
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2 AntwortenYou know who survives firebolts ? Other warlocks. Why? What stat do locks have more of then the other classes? If you hunters weren't so speed hungry trying to have the armor of a titan you could shrug off burns too. PS nerf trip mines
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6 AntwortenFirebolt + Touch of flame + Viking Funeral needs to be reworked. Fusions as well. They track more aggressively AND do more damage than the other two. Transcendence can be tweaked a little bit. Thunderstrike + (increased range perk) is absolutely ridiculous. Voidwalker needs a buff.
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2 AntwortenNothing needs a rebalancing this game was never meant to be balanced or competitive.
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2 AntwortenStart of TTK "WARLOCKS GOT SHAFTED AGAIN MY GOD" now? "BUNGIE IM BAD AT PVP SO BAN A BALANCED SUBCLASS"
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3 AntwortenTheir super last too long they need to bring hunters and Titans back up.
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1 AntwortenYou do realise they will nerf it on both sides. That why many gaurdians don't want it touched. I wouldn't mind a decrease in super time in PVP only but if you nerf it into the ground like the poor sunbreaker its going to become broken and useless in PVE. I main the filthy warlock class. The original sunbreaker was the only thing keeping stormcaller in check in PVP. Most of the time I would trade deaths with them.
