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1/7/2016 10:15:38 PM
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How aim assist and snipers actually works
Aim assist on primaries = bullet magnetism
Aim assist on snipers = Time the reticle slows down on the head
People are complaining about snipers...but snipers are worse after TTK than they were in year one (see my argument in video)
With the nerf of shotguns, everyone is pointing the finger, but people who are talent snipers are getting shit simply because they have practiced...This isn't right.
Is sniping in destiny pretty easy compared to other games? Sure, I'll agree to that.
But to call them broken due to aim assist is a lie.
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They shouldn't be able to pull of there shots if there being shot at
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You make very good points. I agree. But I absolutely despise the language you use. It ain't nice to hear and isn't very mature tbh. If could you could not use so much profanity I'd actually enjoy the video.
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No shit. A guy told me yesterday that if a shotgun had high aim assist it would shoot around walls. I've also been told weapons with high aim assist are automatically better than everything else. I've also been told MIDA went from 45 to 90 this year. I called bullshit because the gun seems to play the exact same way as it did last year. It's funny how nobody bitched about this stuff last year but this year it's the number one topic.
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58 AntwortenWhy is 1000 yard stare the most used sniper? It has the highest aim assist. I do believe there's a video on YouTube about it. Trials has a stat on the most used sniper.......and guess what it's the 1000 yard stare.
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176 Antwortenmtashed: "Now that shotguns are nerfed, they are THRIVING because they don't have these people using CRUTCH weapons sliding in and killing them from a MILE away. They're able to backpedal. They're able to use it in great angles. At this point, snipers are dominating because they DESERVE to." Sounds like a hypocritical crybaby who couldn't figure out how to use his primary weapon. Sliding in yet killing from a mile away? Wut? Shotgunners have to "practice" to learn how to close range without getting sniped. Crutch weapons? Wut? Shotguns require more skill than snipers because the skill is in closing distance. Snipers can sit in the back and what skill do they require? Aiming with thumbsticks? You don't have to close range, you don't have to risk your neck to get a shot. What do snipers need to practice at? No really. What practice? Aiming with thumbsticks? There's no holding your breath, calculating bullet drop, wind, or zeroing your sights. You don't get kicked out of your scope, you can get easy headshots when being gunned down by a Doctrine of Passing. Sniping is the most EZMODE thing in the game. It is. If you think it takes skill you're just lying to yourself. If you can get past aiming with thumbsticks and clicking a trigger, you're golden. Meanwhile, the real players are closing distance, dodging your EZMODE shots, and getting to close range because it's more exciting and more challenging.
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1 AntwortenFusions rifles.
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1 AntwortenI can't believe you ppl are just realizing. Try it on the orb in the golg encounter, it slows down your reticle and it gives a little bit of reticle movement. When looking at the orb, instead of going across in a straight line a bit slower... Where you walk its actually a curve. Please ppl just try it out, and you will see
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You sir, get it. You understand completely. Thank you. :D
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5 Antworten90% of the people who complain about snipers, or pvp in general are people that don't play it that often. If this refers to you please leave. Plus I completely agree with this video :p
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Lol I just watched that vid last night.
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188 AntwortenBearbeitet von SimplyDamian: 1/8/2016 12:50:35 PMSnipers are broken. There is no doubt in my mind that they aren't. But, not for the reason you claim is the argument. They're broken because head shots with snipers is not rewarded enough. What I mean is that you aren't penalized enough when you miss an enemies head. It's absolutely outrageous that a body shot with the 1000 Yard Stare, and every other sniper that's used in the Crucible, leaves you one shot. Damage on body shots should be severely reduced to the point that it takes 3 body shots to kill with a sniper. This gives skilled players a distinct advantage with the weapon class and doesn't allow for, in my opinion, very undeserving body shot kills. I also think the rate of fire is a bit too high and allows for just too much DPS in a small amount of time. Edit: i think it's hilarious that so many of you think I'm complaining when all I do in this game is snipe. If you want me to be able to kill you so easily that's fine with me, I'll gladly kill you over and over.
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5 AntwortenBearbeitet von RogueAgent-11: 1/12/2016 8:19:09 AMSimple question If shotguns cant have range, something I agree with and fits into how they really work. Why should a sniper be able to be used close in like a shotgun? Something they could never really do. IMO, this is where things are not balanced. Agility should be tougher on snipers, than it is on shotguns.
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2 AntwortenThe thing is though I've been sniping in fps's in a long time. Mostly since cod4 & battlefield 2 and even halo. I would say I would win about 75% of sniping battles in those games. But in destiny I don't snipe as much becuase I lose most of the sniping battles. Maybe it's the excessive amount of aim assist or maybe I'm just bad at destiny sniping..
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2 AntwortenLiterally all Bungie has to do is remove Special from spawn or nerf it considerable. And nerf special ammo boxes AGAIN because as it is if you manage your ammo well, you never run out.
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1 AntwortenAnother problem is that snipers can be drawn very fast and you move at a decent rate while scoped in. Snipers should have low deployment times, it should take longer to ADS (snapshot would be useful here), and you should move very slowly while scoped in. Another thing is: Why does a single sniper [b]body shot [/b] get you to like 5% health? 1 shot should blow off your shield and then a 2nd body shot should get your health to about 1% or 2%. Snipers right now seem to just have too many advantages.[spoiler]This is coming from someone who mains snipers in PvP btw.[/spoiler]
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11 AntwortenThis from a guy who thinks Destiny is "competitive." You lost all credibility right there. That... and your Grimoire score.
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You can't just come to this forum with your logic. That shit is illegal
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10 AntwortenLol at him actually believing Bungie. Bungie tells us customers what we want to hear. Like he the auto rifles will be able to compete in the crucible. Wrong. Don't see any auto rifles in crucible/TOO do you.
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Bearbeitet von Maurinho: 1/12/2016 9:29:52 AMwith sniper you can run, jump, strafe and move around the map without any issue or drawback in speed. You can turn and quickscope someone who's firing at you, or you can run to escape, jump, turn around and quickscope him; no flinching on movement for strasfescoping and you can hardscope on a spot forever. You can kill on long distances and have no drawback for cqc. Besides nearly all the maps are for cqc, so sniper can't be for long distances only. however what i don't like is that primaries are less used, if not ever used, in a match. Either be by running with a shottie or running around with a sniper. I'd love to see more gunplay with primaries instead of ohk Sniper are basically the same of Y1, but you had Thorn that was absolutely OP and could wreck any non-skilled sniper. Now you need at least 4 shot at mid distance (3 with hand cannon, but it's hard to get 3 headshot on mid-long distances) so sniper have all the time they want to land a headshot or two quick bodyshot.
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Equip Hereafter and scope in on a fixed point during a match. Don't try to move the scope just hold on that fixed point. When someone runs through the frame the gun will automatically pull toward them. Not pin point tracking but it does track. That's the assist people are complaining about. Shots that are very obviously off mark by feet register as head shots. I will agree there some very skilled sniper users out there that deserve their kills. The issue is unskilled people are getting credited with kills that should not be. I agree with the other poster. Take all aim assist off of snipers (or at least run down to the min) and make it a true skill weapon.
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2 AntwortenEven with a 1000 yard and hidden hand i find it strange how easily and incredibly fast i can get head shotted. Absolutely i suck at pvp sniping and love shotguns. The thing that bothers me is now that ppl just scope and shoot and bend bullets like that movie wanted i can't enjoy primary gun battles as much. Everywhere i go red light just posted it's ridiculous. I'd toss aim assist period all you good snipers don't need it and I'd bet an enormous amount of unskilled snipers would struggle or change weapons. Why can't I get no aim scope shoot headshots I'm obviously trash at sniping and only an avg player but trials just became a hell of a lot harder. U can comment I'm just garbage at sniping true or i would love some advice on how to snipe better.
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Sadly, you can't get zero AA. Even an Efrideet's Spear with an Ambush Scope has some stickiness.
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Bungie should make a sniper only game mode so all the people that sit at the back of maps to record themselves getting headshots for a montage can do just that.
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Agreed however aside from the aim assist the only thing that bothers me from y1 and y2 is rubber band effect it makes for some very annoying trials matches and I hate when I do it to people it's bs if they're around a corner idc if it's the only reason I won a round I would rather jump of a bridge then get that kill it's not fair and, and makes some snipers think they're better than they are and then they t-bag you because you were clearly around the corner when they shot... now not trying to be a complainer and prepared to take them sensless replies of hatred but everyone knows it's breaking the game and maybe not take it out of the game but turn it down a notch especially with blink I hate being shot where I was when I blink and I die
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Good post, as always. I think the ease of refilling your special ammo is the problem.
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2 AntwortenSnipers are deeeeffffinetly broken. Shotgun user or not. It's not even about the aim assist. They come around corners already hardscoped and make precision kills with no reaction time for the target. They are definitely abused outside their intended purpose.
