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Bearbeitet von Irenus:
1/6/2016 2:39:57 AM
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Never playing Iron Banner again.
I'm going to state why I think Iron Banner is a complete waste of time. I'm very angry at this moment, but I am going to try to display my thoughts like a sane person, even though I shouted very loudly after what had happened happened.
I have been playing this laggy, Mida infested game mode since Tuesday. Upon reaching rank 5, all I get is a 310 ghost, and 315 gauntlets. I have a 317 ghost. I have 313 gauntlets. Is this all I deserve from going through absolute hell all week?
Iron banner is no breeze when playing solo. Having to play against teams of 6, laggers, quickscopers, conspiracy theory d blink shotgunners, and Mida multi-toolers, this is all that I get? I understand very well that this is an RNG game. But this is unacceptable.
To anyone who has reached rank 5, we all deserve something good, guaranteed. Everyone should get one weapon, and one piece of armor that is HIGHER than what they have on, (by a noticeable amount, 4-5 light levels higher then what you have equipped) or AT LEAST equal with good roles.
The raid has a challenge mode that guarantees at least one 320 piece of gear.
Why doesn't the crucible have this? The crucible is arguably much harder than a raid is. Raids are the same every single time. Every enemy is programmed to do the exact same things. You are fighting a computer with designed intelligence. And although the raid may lag sometimes, the crucible is just as laggy. In PvP, you're fighting real people, with real intelligence. Why do we get rewarded [i]less[/i] for considerably [i]harder[/i] challenges? Iron banner takes days of grinding for a chance at a 320 piece of gear. Challenge mode takes a few dozen minutes for a GUARANTEED piece of 320 gear.
Additionally, many of my friends have moved on to the Xbox One, and I cannot do the raid anymore. LFG is such a pain that I refuse to use it. I'm not playing with people from a different country just to lag and get kicked, or have some stuck up tight-ass boot me because he wants to control everything I do.
I can't afford a new Xbox One. Not everyone can just go out and buy a new console because other people are.
Edit: We're Trending... Please keep commenting your thoughts and opinions about the loot from iron banner.
Edit 2: http://youtu.be/nDtdJBolvlk
In this video MoreConsole talks about loot, and addresses some of my ideas. Is Iron Banner Worth It?
Edit 3: I don't have a trials/raid team. Please stop telling me to play those. If I could, I would.
Edit 4: Over 1000+ replies. Nice. Please keep commenting and sharing your iron banner experiences, especially if you want Bungie to improve the quality of their loot system.
[spoiler]And to those of you who comment negatively, just know you're only bumping my post and that I appreciate it! (:[/spoiler]
Edit 5: I've heard a few suggestions (excuse me, I don't remember the fellow guardians who came up with these ideas, but you'll know who you are) from a few of you, and to be frank these are some good ideas. One guardian said getting a guaranteed 320 across all three characters (only getting one 320 even if you've played on all three characters) should be implemented. I believe that end of match rewards should only be given to those who are on the top 3 of their team's leaderboards. Those who give the most effort get the most in return. This would encourage guardians to play the objective more often, and of course just play better overall, (capture the zones!) not just sit afk in a match to get to rank 5. Another guardian suggested implementing a "challenge" mode into the crucible as a weekly bounty/quest, similar to the raid's challenge mode. This should obviously not be a task that just anyone can complete, but at the same time it shouldn't be harder than the raid's challenge mode.
Any more ideas? These would all be excellent improvements to iron banner in my opinion, what are your thoughts?
Edit 6: A guardian just posted this link showing his experience fighting another laggy guardian. These kinds of things happened a LOT during Iron Banner.
Video: http://youtu.be/Jt3l0DRZiWU
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ThoughtCrime Ship 3 310 Ghost Shells 320 Ghost Shell, 311 Sidearm (Rangefinder and High caliber rounds makes it very useful) 283 AR 308 AR 311 FR 2 Shotties (dismantled) 5 or 6 helms kept a 302 and 313 (rest dismantled) Bought Titan Helm and bought a PS Hunter Helm and boots, Worked out well for me.
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3 AntwortenI feel you brother on my hunter I opened my rank 5 package and guess what I got nothing [spoiler]nada zip zero I was hoping for an iron wreath but I guess the game decided to give me nothing. *cries at night*[/spoiler]
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Bearbeitet von texmexx27: 1/4/2016 5:08:54 PMPlayed IB all the way to Rank 5 for the first time ever. For my troubles I got including drops and rank packages the IB auto rife 282, 2 iron ghost shells 310, and the IB greaves 313. Plus a handful of motes and coins. The rest blue garbage and 2 purple engrams. That is a whole lot of play time for essentially 4 pieces of good gear. While I don't think I am entitled to awesome gear every round, but there does need to be at least a slight increase.
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Agree in general, except perhaps only giving rewards to the top 3. As a mediocre player I actually have to work much harder than a good player to reach rank 5. The bounties such as "precision hits" take me a lot longer to complete and it really is a grind. I am not sure that I would be prepared to participate if I received no rewards for the effort I made. Let's face it Destiny needs all the participants it can get. I can appreciate that it is soul destroying to be top of the list and receive nothing but it shouldn't be too difficult to find a system that rewarded both ability and the efforts of less able players.
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[quote]I'm going to state why I think Iron Banner is a complete waste of time. I'm very angry at this moment, but I am going to try to display my thoughts like a sane person, even though I shouted very loudly after what had happened happened. I have been playing this laggy, Mida infested game mode since Tuesday. Upon reaching rank 5, all I get is a 310 ghost, and 315 gauntlets. I have a 317 ghost. I have 313 gauntlets. Is this all I deserve from going through absolute hell all week? Iron banner is no breeze when playing solo. Having to play against teams of 6, laggers, quickscopers, conspiracy theory d blink shotgunners, and Mida multi-toolers, this is all that I get? I understand very well that this is an RNG game. But this is unacceptable. To anyone who has reached rank 5, we all deserve something good, guaranteed. Everyone should get one weapon, and one piece of armor that is HIGHER than what they have on, (by a noticeable amount, 4-5 light levels higher then what you have equipped) or AT LEAST equal with good roles. The raid has a challenge mode that guarantees at least one 320 piece of gear. Why doesn't the crucible have this? The crucible is arguably much harder than a raid is. Raids are the same every single time. Every enemy is programmed to do the exact same things. You are fighting a computer with designed intelligence. And although the raid may lag sometimes, the crucible is just as laggy. In PvP, you're fighting real people, with real intelligence. Why do we get rewarded [i]less[/i] for considerably [i]harder[/i] challenges? Iron banner takes days of grinding for a chance at a 320 piece of gear. Challenge mode takes a few dozen minutes for a GUARANTEED piece of 320 gear. Additionally, many of my friends have moved on to the Xbox One, and I cannot do the raid anymore. LFG is such a pain that I refuse to use it. I'm not playing with people from a different country just to lag and get kicked, or have some stuck up tight-ass boot me because he wants to control everything I do. I can't afford a new Xbox One. Not everyone can just go out and buy a new console because other people are. Edit: We're Trending... Please keep commenting your thoughts and opinions about the loot from iron banner. Edit 2: http://youtu.be/nDtdJBolvlk In this video MoreConsole talks about loot, and addresses some of my ideas. Is Iron Banner Worth It? Edit 3: I don't have a trials/raid team. Please stop telling me to play those. If I could, I would. Edit 4: Over 1000+ replies. Nice. Please keep commenting and sharing your iron banner experiences, especially if you want Bungie to improve the quality of their loot system. [spoiler]And to those of you who comment negatively, just know you're only bumping my post and that I appreciate it! (:[/spoiler] Edit 5: I've heard a few suggestions (excuse me, I don't remember the fellow guardians who came up with these ideas, but you'll know who you are) from a few of you, and to be frank these are some good ideas. One guardian said getting a guaranteed 320 across all three characters (only getting one 320 even if you've played on all three characters) should be implemented. I believe that end of match rewards should only be given to those who are on the top 3 of their team's leaderboards. Those who give the most effort get the most in return. This would encourage guardians to play the objective more often, and of course just play better overall, (capture the zones!) not just sit afk in a match to get to rank 5. Another guardian suggested implementing a "challenge" mode into the crucible as a weekly bounty/quest, similar to the raid's challenge mode. This should obviously not be a task that just anyone can complete, but at the same time it shouldn't be harder than the raid's challenge mode. Any more ideas? These would all be excellent improvements to iron banner in my opinion, what are your thoughts?[/quote]mn
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Bearbeitet von wo_silva: 1/4/2016 4:45:57 PMFact: anyone can reach IB rank 5. Not anyone can do the 3 challenge modes. Taken King is FAR fairer than vanilla was. Good loot? Play for it. I don't miss the GHorn times when I need just luck and not gameplay. BUT, Bungie, according to that, IB rank 5 with 3 chars needs a LOT of time. That's a fact too. So, after one week, infinite plays, nothing 320 is a HUGH FRUSTRATION. Sorry my terrible english. But Brazil needs to support that cause: A fair IB next time. Do not let IB become a Weekly Nightfall Strike: a casual play just for fun and nothing else. See ya.
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Rank 5 packaged should've definitely given a 320 ghost or class item. Wasted a lot of my weekend getting to rank 5 with little to show for it.
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1 AntwortenFor me it seems that last ib there were way more drops overall! All i got was a 288 helmet and the items for ranking up. Getting to rank five isnt hard at all but u get no rewarda this time... I rarely see someone getting a legendary, and most of the time its below 300! Its alteady hard enough to get good gear in pvp exept for trials, but this ib is shit itemwise!!!
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I would like there to be a guaranteed 320 piece of loot at level 5, if only for those who don't raid and are crucible crazies! I'm surprised the loot drops have not been higher, like the helmet drops in the sparrow racing...
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Play on sunday, i started my character sunday, did 3 greens bounties, 2 yellow ones (didnt finish the one where you have to get 7 win and finish 11 games). Boom from 0 to rank 5 in 10 games.
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1 AntwortenIf you just collect the bounties and wait to turn them in until Friday or Saturday you can literally rank up all three characters to rank 5 in just a few hours. The drops are RNG, it is how the game works. I do not think it should be 320 guaranteed but I do like how the packages can literally drop any Iron Banner weapon or armor, regardless of what is being sold. I was able to get a 318 arms, a 313 fusion rifle, and a 310 Hand Cannon. I've been killed by the scout so that is dropping for people. And my brother got a 320 ghost shell. If RNG is on your side you can get good rewards. I ranked up all 3 characters to 5 for the first time for that package more for a shot at the scout rifle than for a 320 item.
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1 AntwortenI got more exotic engrams with coin than drops from ib... That is stupid as -blam!-...
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This game is a fkin waste of time
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Save yourself the pain and just play a few matches on a sunday/monday. I got rank 5 on my hunter and titan really easily yesterday after handing in the bounties with class item/shader/emblem/buff. Back to salvage i go, much more tactical and enjoyable gametype (with much less lag)
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Did you mention SRL can't forget that drops 320 helmets
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Bearbeitet von More Cowbell: 1/4/2016 4:21:31 PMI have three 319 characters. All I wanted was a 320 ghost. I would trade all six helmets and every other IB drop for one 320 ghost. It is ridiculous that three 310 ghosts dropped with the level 5 packages. I have enough completed bounties saved that I will only have to run a handful of matches to rank my main to five. I can then immediately rank the other two characters to five on Monday. It isn't fun to play Iron Banner anymore. Too bad.
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I agree on the reward aspect, bump to that
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I thought it was enjoyable. Had the chance play with my friends from college for the first time and to bust out my Year 1 IB gear and steam roll a bunch of people at 266 Light. It was awesome
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I think some of your complaints are valid, while others are just ranting on and on. Here's what I'll agree with. This IB was by far the worst thing ever. The latest patch jacked up crucible and made IB worse. It was a shit show and gave me several headaches. This has been said a lot, so hopefully they are investigating. The in game rewards, post match, were garbage. Ffs sparrow racing gave much better stuff. And I couldn't even bring myself to do it after rank 3. Blah. If you continue to play IB after rank 5 you should get stuff. Often.
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Bearbeitet von bobswerski: 1/4/2016 4:16:40 PMI absolutely disagree that drops should be restricted to the top 3, that's going to kill it for the lower tier or newer players. They need an incentive to play and a way to get more competitive gear. Otherwise, yeah, the drops this IB have been [b]garbage[/b] and considering how many other ways there are to get 320 materials it makes zero sense that one of the supposedly more difficult and competitive aspects of the game does not. The level 5 package should have a guaranteed 320 item. Period. Should it be only the first level 5 package you get? Reasonable. Also want to put a plug in to please add a class item (mark/cloak/bond) to one of the packages if you do not already have one, it's really stupid that something that gives you a meaningful buff - [i]and[/i] is the only item in that slot worth using IB, [i]and[/i] is relatively useless outside of it - is so difficult to obtain now. Edit: Otherwise I just want to point out that other than the drops I thought it was otherwise fine. The lag was probably about the same as usual, and I thought the meta was [u]very[/u] well balanced; MIDA was not as big a problem for me as I had heard it would be, and despite the uproar about the tiny buff to AR's I saw plenty of people using them very effectively.
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Then dont play, we wont miss you
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You're complaining that you got 315 gauntlets from IB, and you had 313 gauntlets? As in, IB gave you something BETTER than you had? Now shut up and quit complaining.
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I got a 320 primary finally sending my Titan to 310
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Reached rank 5 on 2 characters without once getting a weapon drop. Not a single one. The vendor shotgun has crap range. Finally get a drop on the third and it's worse rolls than the vendor at 280 light. I understand your pain. On my main i finished top or within top 3 almost every time and watched person after person who finished bottom get awesome drops. Trials drops aren't any better. If you don't raid you stand a slim chance of getting high light gear. Yes SOME have been lucky. SOME.
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The raid challenge is FAR more difficult than IB. You can literally just play iron banner every day (regardless of win or loss) - turn in your bounties on the weekend and poof - you're 5th.
