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Bearbeitet von Mtashed:
12/30/2015 10:22:56 PM
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Revives Need to be Nerfed - Discussion with Datto
I recognize dealing with revives is essential to success in trials. However, with fast revive gear, it can be oppressively strong to spam revives during a match.
Revive mechanics currently rewards sloppy play. Shields are strong, immunity frames are silly, and getting revived should be a risky last ditch effort.
Dying early should be punished...Instead, teams are forced to get up close with shotguns to stop a revive, or use sniper ammo after it has already happened.
Essentially, primaries are useless during revives, and causes a situation where you either stop the revive before it happens, or have to wait until it is over with before you can react to it.
This lack of counter play needs to be fixed IMO...but I'd love to hear what you think
Ps: Datto hasn't whined or even called for the nerf. I think they are the issue and believe they aren't being done properly. Don't be calling him out when he is more on your side than I am.
Edit: Shocked at how many people aren't even watching the video and trying to discuss this. It is as if nobody is even listening to the arguments and understanding why... I'm not asking to nerf them into the ground, just stop rewarding people for dying.
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I'm not gonna watch the video, at least right because I'm on my phone and I don't care about datto like so many people do. I think they're good the way they are, more deaths means longer time until next revive, faster revive actually puts an emphasis on getting s build suited for trials. There's my two cents
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2 AntwortenI read "Free trial wins" Did you?
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1 AntwortenOkay, I watched the video. Revive shields are the only thing that stops shotgunners. Also, the less skilled players are getting matched up with the professional groups like yours in Which you manage to take them out no problem whether they have a shield or not. Can you imagine what it would be like if there was no extra boost. The game recognizes that your struggling so it helps you out a little bit. Also, you seem like a nice guy and I'm sorry that everyone is bashing you. I feel like big youtubers have too much say in what needs to be changed. If anything needs to be changed bungee needs to start with aim assist
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Agreed it needs to be fixed. Immunity should be removed
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7 AntwortenI ran into Datto at an event once, he had a distinct smell of cabbage about him.
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3 AntwortenWe did it everyone we broke Mtashed!!!
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6 Antwortenlol nobody cares about your full of shit opinion and that dick sucker datto
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Agreed I think the initial timer before you can start reviving someone should get increased. By the time you kill someone and go rush their orbs they would have revived the guy and now both have over shields
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Completely agree. The person reviving shouldn't get a shield and neither should the person that's been revived. You should get actually punished for death
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Bearbeitet von lucasskywalker91: 12/31/2015 6:34:30 PM
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1 Antworten[spoiler]THEN -blam!-ING STOP PLAYING TRIALS YE TWAT[/spoiler]
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I would like the revive shields tweaked to the point that either all snipers still one shot it or none do. That would go a long towards seeing more variety in sniper usage.
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Tbh just get rid of i-frames in the game in general and it'd be a lot better. Maybe halve/decrease by a quarter the shield to encourage primary play and keep fast res as it is.
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You again...
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Yes, also remove the ability to res-snipe, You should have to be on the orb to stop the res!
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2 words: spawn sniping
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Dude if you let you let the other team res it's your fault. No one else's but yours and your teammates. He said you can win trials by spamming revives. Oh yeah okay whatever you don't get a cool for revives or anything. This has got to be the stupidest nerf call outs I've ever heard. This is one of those moments where I say git Gud.
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There's nothing wrong with them. You get the shield because your exposing yourself to almost certain death if the other team are even half good. I don't see many games of trials where teams get a revive and nothing comes of it. It's 3v3 death match. Tactical. Orb rushing is the norm. If you can't do that there's not much more to say
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I think you should only be able to res your teammates when you kill the person that killed them, for example if I kill you the only way your team can get your res is to kill me
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4 AntwortenBearbeitet von WatchDoge: 12/31/2015 12:55:23 AMRevives shouldnt be nerfed, you know why? Half of the community uses the 1000 aim assist stare sniper to one shot the player coming off the revive with virtually no chance of countering. Same goes for high impact shotguns. Why do you want to make it worse than it already is?
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I feel like either not giving the guy that did the reviving a shield so it's a riskier thing to try to pull and you gotta time it better or giving none shields but slightly shortening the animation so it's not just an instant death and you have the chance to at least try to move might help.
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15 AntwortenYes....lets nerf revive...because of PvP.........
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Don't be dumb enough and fall for the bait and switch one v two, one damages the two goes down and then my team mates or I to take both out I res you and move from there. there is no problem other then the fact someone can res you and you can die because of a snipe without any ability to react without help , either whine enough to take rez out altogether or git good with it
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6 AntwortenDoes Datto ever not complain?
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11 AntwortenI know you're trying to be a part of the forum scene mike, but a Word of advice. The people here have a lot of resentment for any streamer or YouTuber. Especially a self-acknowledged elitist like Datto. I'd just be cautious with this sort of thing. There's salt, and then there is jealousy masked as salt.
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5 AntwortenI'm tired of these streamers always thinking their God and that all their opinions are above everyone else. If you got a following that's cool, I'm not knocking you down. But don't think you're above everyone else because you play 60 hours a week. Datto, OP, and many others play the game and when something doesn't go their way it has to be fixed. I never heard of anyone complain about the revives in ToO before I read this post. The nerf train getting out of hand. What's next? We gonna nerf bounties because they give us reputation? Give me a break
