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10/1/2009 5:22:47 PM
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Glyphs and treasure hunting; the truth about the Sword in ODST
[quote][/quote][b]If you are just joining us, the main discussion of this thread has shifted to unlocking the secret associated with the stonehenge rooms and glyphs around New Mombassa at night. The following info about the sword [i]led to[/i] the idea of an unlockable easter egg in ODST, and is still worty of a read. If you wish to join the treasure hunt (why not!) skip to the last pages of this thread and catch up!
Thanks for your contribution, and have fun![/b][quote][/quote]
Sorry, forgot to include this at first: This is all work done by I adJACENt I, and Pope Rex. Pope started the idea by looking at the Medal Chest, and then we both worked on it from there.
As most of you are aware, there is no Energy Sword in ODST. Except for [url=http://www.bungie.net/Account/profile.aspx?uid=7182993]this guy[/url], but he doesn't count. ;) Energy Swords are the [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Energy_sword]signature weapon of the Sangheili (Elites)[/url], and since all of the Elites featured in ODST are already dead, it's no surprise that you cannot find a Sword anywhere. There is, however, and empty Sword hilt near a bunch of dead Elites and Brutes in the Tayari Plaza level, when Buck asks Dare "What's with all the dead Elites?"
Well, as some of you may know, there are two medal GIFs in the ODST GIF database pertaining to Swords. The [url=http://www.bungie.net/images/halo3stats/odst/medals/gif_large/sword_spree.gif]Sword Spree[/url], and the [url=http://www.bungie.net/images/halo3stats/odst/medals/gif_large/slice_and_dice.gif]Slice and Dice[/url]. In Halo 3, the Sword Spree was obtained by killing 5 enemies in a row with the Sword without dying, and the Slice and Dice bumped that number up to 10.
Those images were obtained by viewing the Page source of a person's [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/CareerStatsODST.aspx?player=I%20adJACENt%20I]ODST medal chest[/url]. These pics are not to be confused with the [url=http://www.bungie.net/images/halo3stats/medals/fd6bd89a-db65-4f69-997b-631c52596729.gif]Sword Spree[/url] and [url=http://www.bungie.net/images/halo3stats/medals/0bd30346-acfe-4345-88c7-9a8f7c244cf1.gif]Slice and Dice[/url] from Halo 3. Completely different URLs and sizes. If you attempt to go further up on that url, and try to view all medals, you get a [url=http://www.bungie.net/images/halo3stats/odst/medals/gif_large/]"Sorry, but you are not authorized to view this page"[/url] message, which is understandable. Whether there's a secret or not, I doubt Bungie wants us viewing every single little GIF they have for the stats.
So the question is: Why were there Sword Spree medals made up for ODST, if they did not include a Sword in the game? There are three viable options here...
1. The medals were made due to someone initially thinking there was a Sword in the game. Maybe Elites were in the first stages of the game, maybe we could have stumbled on that fight between the Brutes and Elites, and picked up a Sword off a dead Elite. Maybe they were there just in case someone decided to put a Sword in later. Definitely plausible.
2. Two words, three letters: DLC. Maybe a Sword will be included in some DLC further down the road. DLC has not been confirmed at this point, and [url=http://www.gamerzines.com/xbox-360/news/no-dlc-for-odst.html]there are currently no plans to release any[/url]. So...
3. There is a Sword somewhere in the game, that is meant to be either unlocked or found, and this is what I will focus on for the rest of the thread.
Our first clue to there being something unlockable was the ODST Medal Chest. If you [url=http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll319/XGC_Jacen_Solo/ODSTMedalChest.jpg]look at this picture[/url], you will see two areas I wish to draw your attention to. First is the Weapon Spree medals. Notice how there are black boxes to the right of the sprees of 10. Now, on the bottom, after Hero, the medal box ends, and the last two slots are just grayed out. Why would there be black boxes in the Weapon Spree block, but not at the bottom of the chest?
Also, I forgot to add the following in, Pope reminded me of it...
[quote]In the source code of the ODST medal page, the black medal boxes appear as an object type "hidden medal" as part of a "medalblock" class.
Here:
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Well, we figured there must be some other medal, that no one else has found and unlocked yet. Since these blocks were next to the Weapon Sprees of 10, we first assumed that there would be a spree of much more than 10. Pope tested this theory out, and found that 100 straight splatters will still not give you any extra medal (we tried that [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=32032311&player=I%20adJACENt%20I]here[/url]). We next thought that maybe there was something outrageous you had to do, like playing an entire Round/Set on Legendary while only getting Splatters.
So along this line of thinking, we started trying out various URL's to find a GIF of a medal not on the medal chest. At one point, I started trying some of the Halo 3 MM medals, just for the hell of it. Sure enough, I found the Sword Spree and Slice and Dice. As pointed out earlier, these were part of the ODST GIFs, not the Halo 3 GIFs. Two completely separate URLs.
So now we have these two medals, and no way of achieving them. If we are correct in our assumptions, there is a Sword somewhere in this game, most likely Campaign. We scoured the streets of New Mombosa, looking for any sign of this Sword. We found the empty hilt in Tayari Plaza, and we also came across an odd saying from the Superintendent on this same mission. When we first meet a local guy, he sends us into some buildings to flank a few Brutes. While transitioning from one buliding to another, we hear Buck say something like "What the hell happened here?" And the SI responds "Slow down. Final notice: Bill past due." Could this be a clue? Does anyone know why the Si would say that?
Another possible clue is the little "Stonehenge" room with the two dead Elites. It has 6 pillars, with the 'Y' markings on them, two dead Elites, two Engineers floating around, and a Carbine on the floor next to one of the Elites. What are those markings for? Do they show directions to anything, similar to all of the SI symbols around the city that point to Audion Logs and Beacons? Why do they look different, without anything between the prongs?
These same symbols are located in the Tayari Plaza section at night, while playing as the Rookie, where all the dead Elites and Brutes are. Why are these special symbols only where Elites are at?
There are a couple of other similar rooms around, too, all accessible through a Security Door. Some of them have Engineers, some with Audio Logs, some with other enemies. On the VISR map, these rooms show the pillars inside of them, but when you get into the room, all you can see are shadows where the pillars once stood (Mickey's pod crash site is one example). What's the deal with that?
So, we're left with many questions. Why are there spaces for medals next to the Weapon Sprees of 10? Why are there Sword medals when there is no Sword (that we know of) in the game? What are these symbols that only show up near the dead Elites?
[Edited on 10.04.2009 2:25 PM PDT]
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I have all the medals is ODST, there is no spree for swords and I dout there even in the game.
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i agree with you inferno maybe u must kill an engeneer and being close then press X when he eploding and u will get the sword (just saying but i dont think it could be true)
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its been years now....i have not even seen a hacker on youtube advertising a video on using a sword or battle rifle......not unless bungie tells there is one hidden....i give up with searching and theories
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Interesting. That's a pretty cool find. Hopefully we'll one day find the sword. I would help, but my disc is unreadable. :'(
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Maybe we can ask Bungie about them? :3
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the only elite i know to have dual wield swords was the arbiter from Halo Wars, yes i do know that Wars was not made by Bungie im just stating that i haven't seen any other elite. and the Believe is a reference to Reach so connection there for ya.
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so it has been found... though out of ammo and weilded by an elite. the question is wats special about him? y would he dual weild them. y is he next to the BELIEVE grafitti?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lambertfan12 There is NO energy sword in odst..Have fun wasting your time looking for the energy sword.[/quote] opps nevermind [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onp6uQNcc9w[/url] you can't use it but it there.
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There is NO energy sword in odst..Have fun wasting your time looking for the energy sword.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Joric Deture Very interesting. I'm going to have to keep an eye on this thread. I didn't even know about the "stonehenges." Shows how much of a detective I really am in this game.[/quote] You see the stonehenges if you search for all the audio logs.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LawfulGir The sword might not be n ODST. I don't see an ODST wielding one anyway...[/quote] Yeah, I don't think there's one in ODST.
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The sword might not be n ODST. I don't see an ODST wielding one anyway...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SteroidKloud Im pretty sure you were all searching for something that wasnt there[/quote]
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Im pretty sure you were all searching for something that wasnt there
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spacemutant [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] arsenal2477 this thread has officialy died[/quote] Threads never die... There just missing in action...[/quote] You couldn't have said it better. [url=http://gruntspajamas.com]SGP[/url] still is on to this, with forums open to those who are interested. Join in, there's plenty of room. ...The ODST board IS a bit deserted at the time, though. Reach has some sweet fresh secrets to find, see. :P
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] arsenal2477 this thread has officialy died[/quote] Threads never die... There just missing in action...
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this thread has officialy died
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Its actually and illusion. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Undead0Assassin yer... something else really strange... when elites & spartans carry turrets... they move slow... when the ODSTs do it... they move faster... also the grav hammer is definitely a bigger, harder weapon to use so the sword should of been put before everything else[/quote] [Edited on 09.14.2010 8:07 PM PDT]
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yer... something else really strange... when elites & spartans carry turrets... they move slow... when the ODSTs do it... they move faster... also the grav hammer is definitely a bigger, harder weapon to use so the sword should of been put before everything else [Edited on 09.14.2010 10:49 AM PDT]
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agreed the info on bungie says that only spartans and elites are strong enough to rip off turrets but odsts can do that too. so why not the sword
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It does make sense, Spartans and Elites had managed to use the energy sword naturally, there was no training. ODST's and marines have training in hijacking ghosts, driving covenant vehicles etc. You don't have to be a certain character at all.
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I've been reading every post so far, but I've just realized something that nobody has mentioned in the first eighteen or so pages (not paying much attention, this is probably from 19 or 20). I'm gonna be really mad if you guys have already figured it out, but here it goes anyway. The beeps from the console, they start with a number and then, following that number, are two sets of beeps, each set with three beeps. I noticed that the first set of beeps in each series matches with a district that a stonehenge structure is in. I can't verify it now, but I'd bet money that the standing structure is in District 5, while Mickey's pod and the empty courtyard are in Districts 4 and 6 (four beeps followed by three and three, then six beeps followed by three and three). I need someone to check that for me, because my 360 is in a box somewhere in the garage and can't get unpacked right now. Wow, I'm glad I didn't hit submit, because I just realized something else. Three and three adds up to six. The maps that I'm finding on the web are too grainy to be sure, but I think that the maps all say that there are six pillars in each courtyard. I can't be sure that it's useful information, a red herring, or just plain coincidence. I could be seeing animals in the clouds but, if that's the case, these are some very strange clouds in their own right. I hope this is useful, but I could just as well be repeating what's been said over the sixty or so pages I have yet to read, or rambling on about a mystery solved long before I even found the case. I'm collecting info on this, and I've saved some screen shots and quotes from posters on this thread. I'll keep doing this and, hell or high waters, I will figure these glyphs out. Since I can't get on Live right now, you can contact me on Xfire if I'm not the only one who still cares about it. I'm Helljumper; IFF Tag: 0D57 [Edited on 08.27.2010 8:42 PM PDT]
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There's no [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQI9pAtyHOo&feature=related]Scarab Gun[/url] in Halo ODST, either. BUT IT TAKES PLACE DURING THE EVENTS OF HALO 2. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
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Hey guys, i have found the siege of madrigal and dancing marty glitch, going for it noa!! gt: awsomeshooting4 edit found, it is [url=http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=118674477]here[/url] [Edited on 08.19.2010 11:38 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sleep is HxC has anyone yet mentioned that in the storyline of halo it is mentioned that only spartans can wield the plasma sword(aside from elites), because of how much force and energy it puts out. and for those reasons odsts and marines cant.[/quote] That makes no sense whatsoever. Why is it in game campaign u have to be a paticular character to drive a scorpion or use a sniper/rocket launcher. Yet on mombassa streets the rookie can hijack and use a ghost?
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has anyone yet mentioned that in the storyline of halo it is mentioned that only spartans can wield the plasma sword(aside from elites), because of how much force and energy it puts out. and for those reasons odsts and marines cant.
