Ok, discussing the media video link. As you can clearly see, I'm using a machine gun. He's at what I would consider medium range. I pop him with a headshot and a bodyshot, and instantly get tapped. By No Land Beyond. I knew he was there, knew he was sniping, got the first shots off, and lost. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LikIwEovgtQ[/url] In this second video, I get sniped twice. The first one doesn't bother me since he had a clear shot even though he's at a range that shouldn't favor using a sniper rifle. The second snipe, however, shouldn't be possible. [b]That's a triple tap of headshots with a pulse rifle (Bad Juju, specifically)[/b], and yet he still manages to dome me immediately afterward. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvvtJel5Gs[/url] In this video - yeah, yeah, ignore the horrible Golden Gun, I'm used to using the increased accuracy perk - I get shot at the end by a 1000 Yard Stare [b]THROUGH MULTIPLE AUTO RIFLE HEADSHOTS - 3 chain headshots from the Suros Regime[/b]. This is, frankly, complete bullshit. Sniping should be impossible under constant heavy precision fire. Otherwise, how in the hell is anyone supposed to counter someone sniping without sniping themselves? Let me emphasis this point. Snipers should be able to be countered WITHOUT having to use a sniper in return. I can counter a shotgun user without a shotgun, and I can even counter some Supers without using my own Super. Yet most of the time when I try and counter a sniper in a method that doesn't involve pulling out my own sniper, I lose. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRd9b0I22L0[/url] Finally in this last video, I get body shot twice while literally spraying the guy with Suros Regime. As best I can tell, there's 5 headshots and 2 body shots in there. This, too, is complete and total bullshit. There is no way a sniper should be able to aim under those conditions. He's too close, and I - after seeing him try and snipe me before that from across the room - chose a range and a weapon that should have trumped his hands down. And yes, I realize that if I had gotten a 6th headshot he would have died before the second snipe, but that's beside the point. He shouldn't have been able to snipe me under those conditions, period - let alone twice. His camera should have been jackknifing all over the damn place. ---------- So, what's the overall message here? Well, it's this - snipers are getting headshots and winning fights under conditions and in ranges that simply shouldn't be possible. I guess I'm asking Bungie - What am I supposed to do in these fights? I'm fighting at ideal ranges for my choice of gun, and getting the jump on them by firing first and getting headshots. Yet I'm still getting sniped, and 3 out of 4 of those videos are [b]headshot[/b] snipes. This is why we're seeing a marked increase in people using sniper rifles (and yes, I use them too). They trump everything, and tactics that should counter them simply don't work. --- And by the way, if you think I had to work hard to get these examples of sniping, think again. These are all within the past 24 hours. Hell, 2 of them are from the same game.