Who cares I'm not buying it so it doesn't bother me.

That seems way over priced for a spark of light, a subclass xp boost, and a few telementaries. Like I'd rather spend 50 bucks on something worth it rather than this crap

Guys it's just a quick way for lazy people to get to the taken king content quicker for their new characters that [i]in no way affects your gaming experience.[i] Nobody's paying to get a one-up on gear or abilities that aren't available to the entire community, so it's not pay-to-win. So why care? Sure it stretches what deej said a little while ago, but he's representing a business. They aren't obligated to be friends with the people who play their games. Let's just hope they use the money they get to put out some high quality dlc with story in the future.

I have stared at the screen for a while trying to come to Bungie's defense.... [b]I can't.[/b] They shot themselves in the foot with this one. But, hey, it is Christmas time so new accounts will help them buy a new foot. It isn't going to effect my gameplay but they are getting close to making me not want to buy the next game out of fear it will become a play for advantage game.

They are grasping at straws to stop the bleeding from this dying game.. even at this risk of losing older players who are probably already wise and ready to quit anyway.

Not going to defend this, for some it crosses a line and that is their opion. IMO this does not cross the line in stone that is pay to win. For me pay to win is (credit Mr Toast for listing these out so well) - - buying an exclusive subclass - buying an exclusive exotic weapon or armor - buying a boost that significantly (like way greater than 3of coins) increases exotic drop rate and is usable all the time - buying something that would be required to play content such as the raid - buying things that would give you a significant advantage over every other player in the crucible When they cross that line I will be done with Destiny. IMO if you want to spend $30 to $45 for Lvl 25, its your money even if I find it pretty stupid to skip 10 hours for that much money.

$30 isn't micro at all. was the season pass a MT? was it sold at the tower? shut it.

M8 still cosmetic, even if the price will be 100$ don't affect the game. But hey suckers are everywhere so why not.

quote]Since the new arrivals to the store, the usual two groups have emerged. Group A: the whiners that look for anything to call Bungie out on and don't understand what pay to win is Group B: the level headed group that understands what pay to win actually is and understands how little of an impact this actually has. Pay to win is not getting to level 25 faster than me because you paid 30 dollars to do so. Level 25 doesn't have any advantage and I will reach that level in ten hours of gameplay. There is nothing about it that lets you "win" over me especially for the current player base. Examples of what pay to win really is: - buying an exclusive subclass - buying an exclusive exotic weapon or armor - buying a boost that significantly (like way greater than 3of coins) increases exotic drop rate and is usable all the time - buying something that would be required to play content such as the raid - buying things that would give you a significant advantage over every other player in the crucible Now that you have real examples of what pay to win is, maybe you can make a better decision next time before coming and bitching on he forums about things you claim to be, but are not, pay to win. Edit: Good [b]f[/b]ucking God I did not expect this to catch this much attention. I hope you all realize I won't be reading these comments lol. But thanks for giving me my first trending post! I will add some follow up points below. 1.) it is a slippery slope, I agree with that much, but it is in no way pay to win, no matter which tiniest little scenario you come up with in which it shows a glimpse of that nature, this has no effect on "winning" considering we were all given the spark of light for free when we bought ttk 2.) people are saying I'm the kind of person that would defend them even if they sold 320 gear. No..no I would not be. Selling end game gear, although it is something earn-able, is not something I would be okay with. What this current boost does is get you caught up quickly if you really want to blow 30 dollars, not allow you to spend money on something to get endgame gear while others have to grind for it. Not okay with that in the slightest. 3.) if Bungie ever sells anything available only through purchase with real world money that gives a significant advantage, like if they had sold the touch of malice or a thorn 2.0, that was not obtainable in game, I would be standing right alongside the rest of you rioting and protesting. Or if they sold any exotic gear for that matter. 4.) to recap, pay to win is not this. Pay to win is being able to buy something significantly advantageous that is completely unobtainable in game. But I would still not be okay with them selling anything of real importance in game. But xp boosters? The least of my worries. [b]Edit[/b]: I notice a number of you mentioning the "cosmetic only" promise. Technically, they still haven't broken it because eververse is what they were referring to. These items are sold through the console store :p (I'm just being a troll lol, but I do get what you're saying)[/quote]

Why are people all upset over this, it was already available through buying the collectors edition, this is just a way for people who didn't buy that to buy it now.