According to the 2.1.0 patch notes, Achlyophage Symbiote now reduces Golden Gun's timer (12 seconds -> 9 seconds. That's a 25% nerf). That's absolutely absurd! Golden Gun's active time (without damage resistance) is already way to short. People have been asking for buffs, and you [i]nerf[/i] it? I just don't get it.
Please tell me that it's just a typo...
Edit:
Here's my reasoning, since many of the replies don't seem to get it.
Golden Gun, in its unmodified state, lasts 12 seconds. In that 12 seconds, you have to:
-Return to a combat hot spot after finding a safe place to activate it (rephrased because I had worded it poorly), because god forbid somebody shoots you with a primary while you're in the animation.
-Hope there are enemies somewhere near you, or you just used your super for literally no reason.
- Hope there's only one enemy, or you're simply dead. Yup, two people with primaries will kill a Golden Gun instantly.
-Hope there's more than one enemy, or you just wasted your super for a single kill.
By the time you've done all of that, your time is up. Period. Kills or not, Golden Gun just doesn't care. He's outta here.
And then they drop it to 9 seconds at the cost of your exotic slot? Please explain to me how that makes sense. It's not a "trade off," it's a straight-up sacrifice. You lose 25% of your timer and get an extra bullet to [i]not[/i] use. Logic? Riiiiight...
And to the salty Sunbreakers in this thread:
Even post-nerf, you get a built-in Achlyophage that gives you 4 extra shots, 14 extra seconds, and damage resistance, and it doesn't even take up your exotic slot. Quit acting like they ruined your super.
[b]This guy said it way better than I ever could in his post, here's his reply:[/b]
[quote]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/178885091/0/0
Been following this post since it came up and a lot of comments are along the lines of "you get an extra shot, get over it" or "its a trade off" or my personal favorite "just use it better"
It seems like the majority of people who don't use Hunters don't get why we are angry.
They gave us a worthless exotic. They took a somewhat useful, if situational, exotic and made it a willing debuff to have equipped.
That is why we are angry. They might as well had kept it in Y1.[/quote]
Another Edit:
For those still calling it a fair trade-off, here's a special update just for you:
[b][u]Patch 2.2.0[/u]
Hey guys, DeeJ here! Since our test "rebalance" of Achlyophage Symbiote was so well recieved, we decided to share the love with some of the other popular exotics. You know, to... Uhh... Prevent them from being the only option. Yeah.
Here are the changes:
Armamentarium - All grenade durations are reduced by 25% to balance the extra area control/damage.
Impossible Machines - Now reduces super duration by 25% to balance the extra kill(s).
The Ram - Now reduces Agility to offset the extra Armor.
Saint-14 - Now reduces WoD durability by 33% to offset the blinding feature.
That's all! More balance updates coming in 2.3.0![/b]
Call it a hunch, but I doubt that update would be recieved with open arms.
[u]Edit:[/u] Looks like the whole thing was a mistake in the code, they only meant to nerf it by 0.025%.
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2 AntwortenHunter: "OMFG Bungie wtf! I'm playing skirmish and I just killed all 3 opponents with golden gun but I had 1 GG bullet left! What a waste!" #hunterlogic
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I think it's fine lol. I main Gunslinger too.
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I don't use hunters but I COMPLETELY understand why you guys are mad, I mean there was no reason for this... The time was fine I've never heard anyone complain that the golden gun lasts to long...ridiculous...
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the interesting thing is, if the time while using the Achlyophage was the same as not using it (i.e. the timer for 4 shots was the same time as with 3), then effectively, your timer was reduced anyway by virtue of you having extra shots within the same period. so reducing the time even more seems a bit silly. why would you use an item that effectively nerfs a timer?
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12 AntwortenAgree, it's ridiculous. It Would be fair if every other exotic had some sort of trade off but None of them do. Saint-14 cuts 1/4 of the bubble time off? Obsidian Mind makes Nova Bomb explosion 1/4 as big? Heart of the Praxic Fire makes Radiance last 1/4 as long? No no no no no :)
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12 AntwortenNo reason why gold gun should get perks to make it op since you cried to have sunbreaker nerfed. Learn to use a huntard.
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14 AntwortenPerfect example of Hunter logic. [quote]- Hope there's only one enemy, or you're simply dead. Yup, two people with primaries will kill a Golden Gun instantly. -Hope there's more than one enemy, or you just wasted your super for a single kill.[/quote]
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Two primaries will kill a golden gun instantly, or the Golden gunner should be better than that and kill them instantly with their massive damage? I'm going with the latter, since that happens to me often.
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Bungie trolling hunters for trolling Titans
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9 AntwortenBecause in 12 seconds you can run around the map 4 bullets is way too many its supposed to make it more concentrated so you dont have an extra instakill from across the map bullet
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Bump...hunters are the forgotten step child who gets gifts dangled in there face jus to see it was a front to propel another child(class)'s already decent standing...we got shade step...so titans get an air evade wff?... We had a golden gun exo dat helped to an extent...so titans MUST get this perk built in Hunters naturally jave the worst armor...soooooo lets give every1 else damage resistance when casting supers...try shooting 3 shadowshots at a group...ul be lucky if u get 2 off...but it turns supers off...riiight...whats the point if its a delayed action...idk how many tethered opps i had who stormtranced or golden gunned or hammered me b4 it took effect... I have all 3 so it isnt just ooo ika hunter salt...its jus counterproductive to talk about balance with this kinda stuff
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3 AntwortenIt's a super in a video game Not the end of the world You inevitably will get another golden gun and all will be fine So much other shit to complain about in this world
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Butthurt hunter
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Well in the Spanish version of the game doesn't says that .-.
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2 AntwortenI want to figure out how much time is taken off first
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4 AntwortenIt definitely needed a time nerf!
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10 AntwortenOkay all who thinks that it's fair- how about we take away all damage reduction from a Sunbreaker, and limit the hammers to 4
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I didn't get why they'd do that either, wasn't necessary, and I don't even play Gunslinger
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I preferred Celestial Nighthawk anyways.
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It's literally saying if you use this you're rapid firing your shots. It's forcing a CQC on a range super, and if you're using anything other than combustion you're wrong, and if you ARE using combustion in that CQC environment you only need one or two. On paper it's fair, I get it, reward and draw back (but let's make all exotics have draw backs, maybe then they'd understand) but the reduced time shouldn't start until AFTER the animation.
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I got the year two yesterday. havnt used it but the perk says nothing about reduced time
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2 AntwortenIt's fair.. It's a trade off.. 3 shots with more time or 4 shots with less time..
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10 AntwortenTimer doesn't start until end of animation. Maybe 1/10 by time you can shoot. Stop exaggerating, get off the bandwagon, and find out for yourself
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Meh, it's stupid. But double long lasting trip mines and double knives are better then a 4th shot IMO.
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Good luck getting 4 shots off in Crucible. The only time I got all 4 off was when the match was over and I was just firing off celebratory fireworks in mayhem clash.