I've always hated snipers. I hated them before it was cool. My general rule is 'if it kills me, I hate it.' It keeps things simple and means I don't have to remember which gun I hate on a given day.

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Aim assist is an excuse for retards that rush sniper lanes repeatedly. Aim assist is nothing but the stickiness your crosshairs have on a player. Before TDB I used preadiths revenge and always got easy headshot kills. Sniping still takes more skill than using a shotgun. But now that those actually take skill now, people are mad that they no longer have a crutch. If you bitch about snipers, please, git Gud.

I hate snipers. At least if you shotgun me in the face you've had the bulls to come right up close and personal and chance it. I could melee or grenade or shotty you myself. Snipers infuriate me. Yeah stand at the back of the map or in your little head glitch place and knock my head off when I haven't had a chance to defend myself or even see you. Screams internally

how about we spawn with a full clip of ammo, special ammo crates spawn as often as heavy ammo +remove ammo regen effects in crucible, BAM problem solved, stop nerfing the weapons nerf the playstyle

"[i]If someone sniped you, then you made a dumb decision.[/i]" Getting sniped isn't always a matter of making a dumb decision, sometimes it's a necessary decision just to perpetuate the game. I've seen entire fire teams sit back and camp at the start of a match. Now if you're the opposing team what do you do? Tickle your teammates with boredom or summon some zombies to boogie [b]or[/b] at least try to engage the enemy and facilitate what the match is supposed to represent....combative competition. At some point you have to be willing to engage and put yourself at risk and in the camping sniper's cross hairs. I mean those red-- 'dumb enemy, actually trying to engage in a clash-- is close', cones are going to tell the snipers to be ready to start plucking. So saying it's a dumb decision is a bit misguided. If clash is the name of the game and engaging in combat is what has to transpire, at some point you have to be willing to risk getting sniped, especially if you're not using a sniper. It's not a dumb decision, it's a decision that comes with the game and just moving around the map...unless you want it to become everyone uses a sniper and plays the waiting/tickling game for the whole duration of the match, thus ending in a 0-0 tie-- albeit with some pretty amazing tickling being dished out. There are some absolutely brilliant snipers out there that have tremendous talent behind the scope. Then there are also........those other snipers. The ones that joined in the snipefest, but aren't naturally blessed with sniping adroitness. They sit back try to snipe, get killed by various primaries while occasional landing a lucky shot to an enemy's elbow or foot. Then they wait for the heavy ammo to spawn, get in a couple of quick heavy kill attempts, either run out of heavy or die and then run off to rinse and repeat for the entirety of the match. With that said there are some truly skilled snipers out there that dominate and are amazing behind the scope. But just being able to land a sniped shot on "someone who made a dumb decision" doesn't imply that one possesses awesome sniping skills. Just as shotgunning someone doesn't require true skill, but there are some players who are phenomenal with a shotgun. I actually find all of the class/subclass, sniper/shotgun, OP/Nerf chatter more annoying than the so-called issues themselves. I mean just play the game the way you like to, accept that others are going to play the way they like to or the way the current meta 'forces' them to. You are always going to get people climbing aboard the 'increase my chances for success bandwagon' (including me). One day it may be Hammer Tossin' Hotheads, next the hunt-y/shotgun-y/pulse-y/blinkie thingy, next marshmallow roasting snipers with skill/luck that take advantage of players dumb enough to play the game and attempt combat engagement, and who knows....? Maybe the next, [i]next[/i], [b]next[/b] day it will be players who take advantage of the soon-to-be-coming [b]'LOOK!!! Your Shoes Untied, and Now You Die'[/b] emote. I just find it both humorous and disheartening that so much effort and time is put into bashing other players and how they are choosing to play a game that we all enjoy. Sure, I get frustrated when I get face-caked by a Spammer of Sol (despite the guilty titan shrugging off my tracking rocket I just launched), blinkety-bleep-blank-blink (don't blink) gunshotted, sniped by the same camping team of sniper(s) (just different perch) and sliced and diced by a sexy sword. But it's all part of the game and players are going to play how and with what they enjoy, what the game has provided and for some strange reason....in ways that give them the best chance to do well-- those darn guardians, what's wrong with them???!!! So, I say do what you enjoy, play with the current so-called OP toys and strategies we all have been 'given, all have access to and are all allowed to use'.......and just have some fun. And be respectful of one another, I mean we are a Community of Guardians, after all. I mean I hate when I hear that clang of the hammer and head for the hills, but I hold zero animosity towards players who are just having fun and chose what class/weapons/strategies would make the game more enjoyable for them. And good luck to all on getting sniped to the face...and elbow....and toe!!!

Too many team hardscopers. At least add something like sway after 3 seconds. I can do that, too. But it feels like thorn pre-2.0.

I love sniping but there needs to be something to limit the people hard scoping with high AA. You can move around way too quickly while ADS and the gun is just too stable when you are. They need to make something like CoD where you need to hold your breath or where you are less accurate standing than when crouching.