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Bearbeitet von HappyMeal75:
11/16/2015 5:32:24 AM
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I was a "True" 30,32,34 but I will not be 320
It's too much effort for lack of a reward. Someone like me who put up with even the VoG RNG enough to hit 30, is not willing to get 320. It's RNG to get something, than RNG on its light.
Basically Kings Fall is thought of as a bad raid even to players like me who are up for a grind, purely because of the loot.
Edit: For those saying you can't because of artifacts, that's not the point, I'm not getting 319 either.
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This is why I haven't done the raid, only did half of it & haven't tried since then. I think trials is way more worth it especially with the bounties & reward system
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1 AntwortenYou're doing it wrong. If you play this game just to reach what you call the end, whether it be 30, 32, or 320, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. It's not Bungie's fault, nobody else's fault, it's your own expectations of the game. You can actually enjoy this game without fusing over not making it to end level fast enough. Many people do and enjoy it.
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Same. I don't intend on really going higher than I am know.
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Yup. KF loot is stupid, and what has ultimately driven me from playing the game more than ~3 hours a week (when I run KF Normal and Hard with my raid group on my Titan main). It's the only thing content wise left for me to do, because I despise PvP, which is sad. I was hoping I wouldn't get burnt out as fast as I did with TTK, but it is what it is.
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15 AntwortenFor me I know I won't ever be 320 because it's just highly improbable. Back in vanilla and dark below, getting to level 30/32 was just a matter of getting 3 drops plus an exotic. Imagine you are running an old raid, and you need a helmet, and you kill atheon and are thinking "Cmon it's a 1/9 chance!" (Helmet, 4 primaries, mythoclast, shader, ship, sparrow). Now you kill oryx and you need a 320 helmet, and you are like, "Cmon it's a 1/165 chance!" (Helmet, chest, gloves, boots, class item, 4 primaries, 3 secondaries, 2 heavies, ghost shell, then the 1/11 chance of it being 320 light).
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1 AntwortenI did oryx on hard mode 2 times today... Not one thing that I needed Level 34 was way to easy to get to and they needed to make it harder but this is ridiculous
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Bearbeitet von Atlas Enderium: 11/18/2015 6:41:54 PM310 arifact and everything else at 320 is at 318 Edit: math was wrong: it's 319
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I won't do this raid, and most likely, any future raids, for one reason: the 'new meta' grandfathers stragglers for free! There is little reason for me to work hard to acquire light, when it will be given away in the next release. That is Bungie's biggest mistake! Players should have been required to complete VOG, then Crota then POE, before being granted TTK access. That would have required all to learn team play. Most of the complaints registered by raid groups have to do with lack of team work. That is something raid veterans, understand well. When that was cast asunder by Bungie's 'new meta', the goal became 'light' regardless of how it is acquired. A shame. It misses the entire purpose of a raid: it's not gear, it is learning team work and sportsmanship. That, sadly, is lost now... That is the reason I refuse this raid! I raid to be part of a team and have fun! To enjoy the friendships forged under fire, and laugh at my own mistakes. That is lost now, like light on a setting Sun. When that friendship and camaraderie is returned to raids, I will return... I play for fun, not light.
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1 AntwortenNo real point in getting to 320 right now since you only need to be 310 for oryx
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9 AntwortenThe raid itself is good. Rewards are garbage. I think Destiny handicapped itself a bit too. With all of the best weapons coming out of VoG and I guess black hammer from Crota, everything they ever make will be overshadowed by those weapons because that's how we were taught in the beginning that [i]this[/i] is how raid weapons should be! Significantly better than everything else available. Now they are trying to get rid of favored loadouts and keep everything fairly even. But this pulls people away from acquiring the raid weapons because often times the vendor weapons are better and more easily acquired. (such as hung jury and 1000 yard stare) this is an issue. The raid weapons should give you an advantage. They should be favored over a vendor weapon. They don't need to be incredible like fatebringer. But they should be unique in a way that is actually useful. (they have cocoon which is unique but very situational and arguably is not enough to make it the clear choice over vendor weapons.) Do you guys agree?
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1 AntwortenThis new system is worst than "forever 29". Way worst!
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Yeah, I feel ya. I've been stuck at 315 for a while. I'm close to 316, but I have a feeling I'll be at 316 a very long time. Unless some new mode that drops 330 gear is released.
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Is it true 310 is the same as 320? 10% intervals.?
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Getting to 320 doesn't really seem necessary like it was to reach level cap before but I have to disagree about Kings Fall being a bad raid. It's a lot of fun, way better than Crota.
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I agree. I wouldn't mind the rate raid drops if it was a guaranteed 320 drop. But because it could be 311 it really should be guaranteed drops everytime. The past two weeks I think I've gotten 1 or 2 low light pieces from the entire raid on two characters. Only counting Harrowed items of course.
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All these expansions just so you can increase a light level by like 2 numbers, lol.
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3 AntwortenWhat's the point? It won't matter once the next DLC comes out.
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Little to no effort. 45 min kingsfall runs. Its about making friends and enjoying the game for what it is. Not what it is not.
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2 AntwortenGrinding to reach 320 is useless when next dlc comes out the armor at vendors will probably get you to 320.
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4 AntwortenI think they should make Challenge Mode King's Fall give guaranteed 100% 320 drops. However, you should have at least 315 light level and at least 315 in that slot. If you don't, then it should drop whatever it would drop in Heroic. This way, you have still have to grind a little for the gear, but when you complete the hardest challenges in the raid (Challenge Mode) then you should be rewarded with the best gear. If it is still random 310-320 and I have 318+ and still get 311 gear I will slit wrists. Hell I am still max 313 on 2 Guardians and it's bee 3 weeks of drops. Poop.
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Bungie completely missed their player base with the loot table in this raid. I know I speak for my group of friends when I say that we are all completionists. We play games with the objective of doing everything that there is to be done, completing all quests, and attaining maximum level. Up to TTK, Destiny was a great game for our type because it was difficult to complete everything but certainly not improbable. Even after attaining light level 30 in VoG you then had the goal of getting all exotics and leveling them all sufficiently to be able to equip yourself for every different situation. With the new raid loot system, it is statistically improbable to reach light level 319 and it is actually [u]impossible[/u] to reach 320. WTF!? My point to playing the game is to get everything done and you are telling me that I cannot even hit max level because there is no artifact above 310. AND I could run the raid 3 times on 3 characters every week and potentially get 1 piece of 320 gear per month? And there's a chance that that 320 drop is gear you already have. Excuse my french but -blam!- that. On top of that, exotics drop at 310 Max and it takes multiple legendaries at higher light levels to get them to 320. So, in order to obtain the "completness" that I obtained during VoG (max level with the ability to use any exotic I wanted) I could potentially be grinding the raid for the rest of my life. What?!
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This is the reason ive lost my love for destiny :( love this game but bungies -blam!-ed it up too much now, the grind is horrendous
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1 AntwortenTheres no point to be 319/320, i hit 315 and just stopped bothering to play all together because theres no point.
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The loot drops from this raid are definitely frustrating. I've played through maybe 5 times and completed parts or the first 2/3 of it a bunch of other times, but I have not received a single piece of armor besides the helmet. Not one. Meanwhile, people in my raid team are complaining about their fourth set of boots dropping. The most recent run through I got a bunch of guns to drop - but they were all duplicates of ones I already had and were dropped at lower light levels and two low level ghost shells.
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1 AntwortenKings fall is a fantastic raid The RNG loot system for it sucks
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This is the reason why I don't even feel bad that I've been cheating on my main bae Destiny with Halo CoD and Fallout I got 3, 310's and that's as far as I care to go. What's the point of going to 320?
