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Bearbeitet von Moonglow89:
10/26/2015 11:47:06 AM
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Kings Fall Hard Mode NO KNIGHT Strategy! (Vids included)
Our team has developed the No Knight Strategy on Hard Oryx!
Edit: It seems that another group came to the same conclusion BEFORE US, but we didn't steal it. (We know you'll say we did, but it's not like anyone will remember us.)
The main difference with our variation is that being down closer to the Ogres coaxes them toward the middle. If you stand on the Deathsinger Towers, the Ogres back up because they are trying to shoot you. Down in the middle, the Ogres come closer, meaning you don't have to run as far to detonate.
GT: gh0st wh1sp3r (311), Arcangel9er1 (309), DOOMZDAYE666 (310), griffilicious (309), L1mit30 (308), theREALOGKILLA (310)
- 1 Hunter, 1 Titan, 4 Warlocks: Sunsinger is useful, but NOT 100% necessary (this is what our team consisted of, YOU DONT NEED ANY SPECIFIC CLASSES, just know how to survive)
Check our Emblems! ;)
Strategy:
- 4 Platform standers (1 with the Brand above their platform will be a Distractor)
- 1 Relic Runner
- 1 Permanent Distractor
Weapons:
- Touch of Malice (does help with Oryx, and since you're not killing adds, you won't really die)
- Machine Guns
- ROCKET LAUNCHERS!!! (Nice try, Bungie!)
- Snipers aren't actually needed...maybe for the Shade of Oryx, but not for the Ogres, since we're not trying to kill them!
- SUROS was my weapon of choice, because I could do headshots to annoy Ogres, but not kill them.
Start up the fight the normal way - kill the Thrall and Knights that spawn and get ready.
The first smash will always end up with one of the right two plates that have a Brand above it. This person will be a Distractor.
THEY NEED TO STAND ON THE DEATHSINGER TOWERS!
The Distractors' job is to keep the Ogres firing up at the Deathsinger platforms, so drawing aggro away from the Platform standers and ESPECIALLY THE BRAND RUNNER.
Get the Ogres down to 50% health AND THEN JUST STAY ALIVE!
DO NOT KILL OGRES. Platform Standers can shoot, just once it hits 50,% HIDE.
If the Brand is on the Door side, the Relic Runner can jump onto the Deathsinger platform after grabbing the brand.
Have a Nightstalker with Smoke Bomb ready to cloak the Relic Runner. The Ogres then ignore the runner.
Distractors need to keep the Ogres on the Saturn side facing away from the platforms (toward the Deathsinger Towers) and the Relic Runner - especially if the Brand is on that (Saturn) side.
Once the Aura is taken from the Vessel, the Relic Runner (and rest of team) runs up to Oryx for DPS. IGNORE THE VESSEL OF ORYX (or kill him BEFORE Oryx slams.) The Platform Stander by Oryx can jump down after Brand is taken and STAND UNDER ORYX's FIST. Hug the wall.
Once the Aura is there, everyone DPS the crap out of Oryx. It helps to have someone in the back watch the Ogres. Sometimes, they get feisty and try to run into the Aura and slam people.
https://account.xbox.com/en-us/gameclip/d73ccbf2-0ec0-4cfa-b98c-137489384c18?gamerTag=gh0st%20wh1sp3r&scid=37770100-f9ae-4b80-9dad-7c1d0ec14469
After he is stunned, walk to middle and 3 people shoot the Saturn Ogres, 3 shoot the Door Ogres. CALL OUT WHEN OGRES GO DOWN "One door/Saturn Ogre, both door/Saturn Ogres"
https://account.xbox.com/en-us/gameclip/85f4c0a2-e1c1-4cd2-9ad9-482121ce9121?gamerTag=gh0st%20wh1sp3r&scid=37770100-f9ae-4b80-9dad-7c1d0ec14469
Try to kill Ogres at the same time, because Knights will come out if done too early. THE VESSEL WILL TRY TO EAT A BOMB. Pay attention to it. Kill it or beat it to a bomb. YOU CAN STAND THERE AND SHOOT IT. DON'T JUST WAIT AROUND WHEN YOU GRAB A BOMB.
KILL OGRES THAT ARE FARTHER AWAY FIRST! Then focus on closer ones. When all are down everyone moves about 4 feet into the bombs and then comes back.
https://account.xbox.com/en-us/gameclip/167b46b5-8f06-4207-9136-2ec844a5fce7?gamerTag=gh0st%20wh1sp3r&scid=37770100-f9ae-4b80-9dad-7c1d0ec14469
If there are Ogres far away, SEND A WARLOCK WITH FIREBORN TO THE BOMBS. (Not required, but just if you have them.) Make sure they anticipate running a farther distance and holding onto their Super. Don't panic revive! Stay dead if the bomb is lit.
Once that is done, do the bombing run or Shade of Oryx normally. Lather, rinse, repeat!
And a happy ending for all!
https://account.xbox.com/en-us/gameclip/e350d449-752a-4a88-9d8e-fab625f778d5?gamerTag=gh0st%20wh1sp3r&scid=37770100-f9ae-4b80-9dad-7c1d0ec14469
:D
Edit 10/25: We might not have been first, but we DEFINITELY gave it the name, "No Knight"!
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6 AntwortenNO Knight strat absolutely sucks, if your pulling from Forums it's extremely hard and a lot of explaining and demonstrating and whatever else... Anyway it's a lot more work to do that way when all you have to do is kill 1 Knight (1each/4knights) then carry on as you would on Normal and there you have it raid completed
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Bearbeitet von TeKNiiCaLz: 11/10/2015 2:06:03 PMwaste of time/manpower...kids who use this strategy have no skill to kill the knights fast enough with snipe or malice...noob strategy
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1 AntwortenI like to open cans of soup using only razor blades too. It only takes 10 razor blades and you might cut yourself but razor blades are cheap off Amazon.
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Kind of hate this strategy. We do it the way the mechanics intend and don't really ever have an issue with it. The few times we did try this technique, we failed miserably.
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2 AntwortenIf you run it normal and kill knights it's easy as hell
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Worst. Strategy. Ever... Of all time
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1 AntwortenOr you could just...kill the regular red health knight. Two shot headshot with any sniper rifle.
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16 Antwortenor you could all raid as intended and not suck at the game (: *takes cover*
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1 AntwortenNeed 5 for daughters hard mode must be above 310 experienced and have touch of malice with mic add Donzyman_
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Horrible strat
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It's much easier to do it normal lol
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1 AntwortenBump please
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5 Antwortenhum i killed my ogre and knight just fine, just the vessel would spawn late and -blam!- us up
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1 AntwortenDid this strat with 5 other randoms on the 1st try with everyone 309 light. Its easier than trying to stay alive on the pad when killing ogres.
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3 AntwortenToooo complicated and to much to risk in my opinion. Normal strat, killing ogres, killing knights is way more easy. One Titan in the middle as main support, of possible one hunter on platform to entrance, one Saturn side. Relic runner says "down", arrow in the middle back and front. First three knights should be killed, last one together as a group from middle. Crowd control until he hits platform, dps, detonate bombs (meanwhile nearly no ads), come back, dps and run. Easy like this when everybody takes care of his job.
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2 Antwortenclearly....once ppl start using/trying this strat...they will see how much EASIER it is to defeat Oryx. doing it this way...u dont worry about the billion ads that spawn....you dont worry about the knights that spawn...really....takes the "hard part" out of hard mode. you prolly cut oryx kill time in half doing it like this. and on top of that...you dont NEED to have all those high light lvl guys in there. i know i wont ever doin it the "normal" way after realizing the simplicity of this strategy.
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Found this strategy insanely easy. (Used it yesterday night!)
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Personally I found it way easier to do the ogres from the death singer platform. Only the guys on top at start of run shoots them to distract them, everyone else crouch on plates to keep out the way. Runner grab relic, someone distracts ogre opposite relic, runner gets brand while everyone else get on singers plate. Runner gets up to everyone. Flinch oryx, floater guy and runner kill knight you take brand from (forgot what he's called :/ lol) Other 4 work on ogres (1 each) call out when all nearly dead On count of 3 everyone drop to middle 2 guys in middle keep shooting oryx other 4 kill ogres while running to them and blow bombs then back to middle. After that run or teleport don't matter rinse and repeat Once we got it down it went smooth.
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15 AntwortenYeah no. I'll wait till reset Get better gear Raise my light level Kill my orge and knight And do the normal strategy
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6 AntwortenI don't like it this way at all!
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3 AntwortenOr just kill the knights. Takes like 2 seconds you can shoot them as they're spawning on far side
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3 AntwortenIt's easier if you drop the ogres to a quarter health, then once you get oryx to stagger, you kill the ogres immediately and runners sprint to their designated platform and detonate their corrupted lights. Everyone then meets in the middle under the Aura. Ran oryx faster than ever once we got the method down.
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2 AntwortenI mean it seems simpler to just do normal strat because this strat just seems that explaining it will take forever to people who have not done it before. Also what makes the normal strat simpler in my opinion is that everyone has their own thing they are doing, like you kill your Shrek then you kill your knight after ward and run to the middle and then do your thing and wash rinse and repeat. Also I did join a group that tried to do this and it did indeed take forever to explain it (was not me doing the explaining I was literally just sitting their waiting for them to get done), to complicated and has to many chances to slip ups that require a wipe if not done right, and feels like a gamble every round.
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1 AntwortenThanks for the post! Screw the haters. They're just mad they didn't figure it out in their own. I'm gonna give this a try tomorrow. 306 Titan w/ ToM, BS gonna try tomorrow afternoon (CST) add me if you wanna join!
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6 AntwortenThis is good thinking but it's really much more complicated and can result in more problems then just running it normally
