What is with the sheer number of people on these forums that think the Sunbreaker subclass is OP? It is easily countered by mobility skills and items such as Shade Step, Empyrean Bellicose, and Angel of Light. That's at least one extremely simple counter for every class.
I understand that some people love to just keep pushing forward and rush everything during a match, but that's always been a death wish when dealing with a Titan.
Now what's so different about Sunbreakers? Their ability to move and throw hammers makes it a similar super to the Golden Gun. Would anyone literally just stand still as the Golden Gun comes right at them? Not often. But it's surprising how many people just attempt to take hammers head on. The key is to move in more unpredictable ways, such as strong vertical mobility. When hammers are thrown in your general direction, simply evade and shoot the Sunbreaker down. My Empyrean Bellicose has won consistent 1v1 encounters against them.
I just don't understand why most people can't adapt their playstyles to compete, and instead come on these forums to cry nerf and ruin this subclass. I know most people are upset with the new TITAN *cough* tank class *cough* subclass and its ability to not be one-hit killed by anything but supers, but that's what a tank class should be. The offensive capabilities aren't overwhelming enough to lower the damage reduction. I just don't see why everyone should have the same basic amount of health. This is Destiny, it's not a traditional fps where everyone is the same. These classes should have differences in stats, and changing this does no good to the game but please all the people too lazy to strategize.
EDIT: There's so many people attempting to counter me that I doubt I'll get to them all. Please read the other posters' arguments before posting the same one please.
EDIT 2: Many of you are refusing to acknowledge my points because you seem to think I main a Titan. Hell, if anything I main a Hunter. That's the class I started with and that's always been my go-to for most everything. I've played all three classes and all nine subclasses extensively and I know their ins-and-outs. I'm not some fool that is trying to defend my subclass from the evils of the world, so don't treat me as such.
EDIT 3: Nice to know I'm not alone in my fight. Some have stepped forward to help show that Sunbreakers aren't as invincible as most would claim. It seems I'm not the first to have picked up a similar tactic in my fight against the new subclasses. Thanks to everyone for your input, be it positive, negative, or anywhere in the middle.
EDIT 4: One day later, and this is still going. I'm currently at work, and I'll attend to as many responses as I can when I'm home. Until then, find more ammo to use against me. I tire of the same points showing up; they're almost as predictable as a flaming hammer.
EDIT 5: Clips incoming! I've heard some claim a lack of credibility since I haven't posted clips of myself taking down Sunbreakers. I'm still at work at the moment, but I'll try to dig up a clip or two of my own once I'm home to prove my point. In the meantime, feel free to look up this same tactic; I'm sure you can find someone else demonstrating it for you.
EDIT 6: I found a clip in my Game DVR that shows the basic strategy to use with Empyrean Bellicose/Angel of Light. It's not my best work, but it got the job done. I'll also make a clip using Shade Step once I step back into the Crucible as my Hunter.
EDIT 7: I'm not sure how much longer this post will keep going, but I just thought I would let everyone know it's been a good run. If anything, I'm sure I've helped a few of you deal with those bothersome Sunbreakers and their undeniable strengths (and weaknesses). For the others that fail to heed my advice, I wish you luck in finding your own solution to your problems. I'm positive I'll run into a few of you someday in the Crucible (though I'm known to be far less civil while letting my weapons do the talking for me).
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the class itself is not op but the super is nroken in pvp NOT pve. needs a tweak thats all.
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1 AntwortenFor a 'tank' Titans have too much agility, can jump the highest, and their supers can beat out "pure dps". Golden gun and bladedancer are a whooole lot easier to deal with than sunbreaker. Sunsingers can be tanky if they spec for it specifically. In that clip, it was 2-3 of you that killed him. That's way too much, no other class requires that much team fire (except for sc but that's easier to deal with). You can say you guys are the 'tank' class but if you really are, why are you dishing out a much more dangerous dps super? I'd understand if a defender, an actual tank spec, would be more troublesome. Sunbreaker, a dps spec is golden gun + sunsinger practically.
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9 AntwortenOh I get it so titans are allowed to have tons of health and armour and small nova bombs but no other class should be because they aren't tanks.
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10 AntwortenBottomline is Hunters are moaning due to the fact after a year of being the number one class for PvP supers that auto aim through everything and just spam button to get multiple super kills, they no longer feel special. Think for a minute for the poor hunter, whose new subclass actually requires SKILL to hit someone with. You can understand they are so upset and sad. A minutes silence for Hunters please. They miss auto aim easy kills :(
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4 AntwortenYou've got seven little Nova Bombs - enjoy them while you can.
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Bearbeitet von Lull9: 10/20/2015 4:21:42 AMIt's nothing new. Remember how much people used to complain and taunt about "Fist of Panic?" [i]AND IT ISN'T EVEN THAT GOOD.[/i] (Low realistic average kill potential.(I don't care if someone wiped the entire team in 1 out of 1000 matches)) I think there's just something that makes all the "cool kids" hate Titans.
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11 AntwortenWith thunderlord i do 72 to the head and 67 to the body in regular pvp. To a HOS its 32 to the head and 26 to the body. Dont let anyone tell you its not OP man. It needs a nerf.
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Vertical mobility my ass.....tracking hammers that seem to have proximity detonation and a large blast radius. I move as unpredictably as i possibly can and still get hit in outside maps.....and good luck getting vertical in maps like anomoly and firebase delphi.
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Shade step doesn't counter sunbreaker at all. The explosion radius is practically the same size if not bigger than the distance you cover with shade step. Not to mention the perk that gives you tracking on hammers.
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Sweet, every time I see a HoS I'm going to into my inventory and switch to those armor pieces and.......I'm dead.
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16 AntwortenI agree. I myself main a Titan who now uses the Sunbreaker subclass. It's fun to use and I don't think it should be nerfed. Why? It's time Titans have a more versatile class cause before, either you were on full offense or strictly defense. Other classes such as Sunsinger (this is just one example) could play both roles making them more valuable to any team than us Titans. I don't want an argument or hate mail about this, I'm only stating an opinion that you can feel free to object, but to do so, please do it in a more refined way. Thank you.
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15 AntwortenIt is op. One hit on any other class with super
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3 AntwortenGood thing you mentioned how hammers are like golden gun early in your post so i can stop reading, good day.
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4 AntwortenI'm top 1% in trials and I can hang with most people, I don't think sunbreaker is unbeatable by any means nothing is unbeatable in this game but it is definitely over powered. There is no other super like it, I don't even think the armor is bad but the rate at which you can throw hammers, the travel time of the hammer, the homing and the explosion radius is massive. This can't be denied
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4 AntwortenI disagree with angel of light, that just makes you easier to hit
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I loved playing my sunbreaker and I main a defender. For this first bit I was loving hammers, but I felt far from invincible. I honestly think I play much better and survive much longer (ie. Still got killed often with hammers) as a defender. Mind you Im only an average player.
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Personally I play as a striker because I have a deep love for shoulder charge and being superman. Saying this I constantly go up against hammers without a hammer myself and I agree with you. Just move around and at the very least you will make him waste enough hammers on you to where you are his only kill.
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1 AntwortenI said the same shit about blink.
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2 AntwortenI'd like to bring one thing to attention he said the counter is too move in unpredictable ways angel of light is literally the opposite of unpredictable it makes you a floating target Plus who is going to use it over touch of flame which for some reason isn't working with firebolt grenades
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2 AntwortenWell put. Logic generally loses to whining on these forums.
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4 AntwortenLol these titans are saying its balanced so that they won't get nerfed. Its too strong period. Idgaf if you had a shitty class last year
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7 AntwortenNothing brings me greater joy than killing a Sunbreaker with Arcblade, because Bladedancer got nerfed and soon you'll feel that too. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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1 AntwortenDon't forget the proximity of the hammers and even though nova bomb maybe powerful, you have one chance, you can miss it. Breakers can throw about 5 nova bombs and if I miss one, I'll lob another,and regain health.
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12 Antworten[quote]Lol these titans are saying its balanced so that they won't get nerfed. Its too strong period. Idgaf if you had a shitty class last year[/quote]