What is with the sheer number of people on these forums that think the Sunbreaker subclass is OP? It is easily countered by mobility skills and items such as Shade Step, Empyrean Bellicose, and Angel of Light. That's at least one extremely simple counter for every class.
I understand that some people love to just keep pushing forward and rush everything during a match, but that's always been a death wish when dealing with a Titan.
Now what's so different about Sunbreakers? Their ability to move and throw hammers makes it a similar super to the Golden Gun. Would anyone literally just stand still as the Golden Gun comes right at them? Not often. But it's surprising how many people just attempt to take hammers head on. The key is to move in more unpredictable ways, such as strong vertical mobility. When hammers are thrown in your general direction, simply evade and shoot the Sunbreaker down. My Empyrean Bellicose has won consistent 1v1 encounters against them.
I just don't understand why most people can't adapt their playstyles to compete, and instead come on these forums to cry nerf and ruin this subclass. I know most people are upset with the new TITAN *cough* tank class *cough* subclass and its ability to not be one-hit killed by anything but supers, but that's what a tank class should be. The offensive capabilities aren't overwhelming enough to lower the damage reduction. I just don't see why everyone should have the same basic amount of health. This is Destiny, it's not a traditional fps where everyone is the same. These classes should have differences in stats, and changing this does no good to the game but please all the people too lazy to strategize.
EDIT: There's so many people attempting to counter me that I doubt I'll get to them all. Please read the other posters' arguments before posting the same one please.
EDIT 2: Many of you are refusing to acknowledge my points because you seem to think I main a Titan. Hell, if anything I main a Hunter. That's the class I started with and that's always been my go-to for most everything. I've played all three classes and all nine subclasses extensively and I know their ins-and-outs. I'm not some fool that is trying to defend my subclass from the evils of the world, so don't treat me as such.
EDIT 3: Nice to know I'm not alone in my fight. Some have stepped forward to help show that Sunbreakers aren't as invincible as most would claim. It seems I'm not the first to have picked up a similar tactic in my fight against the new subclasses. Thanks to everyone for your input, be it positive, negative, or anywhere in the middle.
EDIT 4: One day later, and this is still going. I'm currently at work, and I'll attend to as many responses as I can when I'm home. Until then, find more ammo to use against me. I tire of the same points showing up; they're almost as predictable as a flaming hammer.
EDIT 5: Clips incoming! I've heard some claim a lack of credibility since I haven't posted clips of myself taking down Sunbreakers. I'm still at work at the moment, but I'll try to dig up a clip or two of my own once I'm home to prove my point. In the meantime, feel free to look up this same tactic; I'm sure you can find someone else demonstrating it for you.
EDIT 6: I found a clip in my Game DVR that shows the basic strategy to use with Empyrean Bellicose/Angel of Light. It's not my best work, but it got the job done. I'll also make a clip using Shade Step once I step back into the Crucible as my Hunter.
EDIT 7: I'm not sure how much longer this post will keep going, but I just thought I would let everyone know it's been a good run. If anything, I'm sure I've helped a few of you deal with those bothersome Sunbreakers and their undeniable strengths (and weaknesses). For the others that fail to heed my advice, I wish you luck in finding your own solution to your problems. I'm positive I'll run into a few of you someday in the Crucible (though I'm known to be far less civil while letting my weapons do the talking for me).
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10 Antworten7 hammers, 25 seconds to kill and radiant skin defense with regen... What the fvck is wrong with people that cannot see this is Op.
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22 AntwortenAnyone who says Sunbreakers are invincible suck at sniping, you can take them out with 2 headshots
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Grab your trusty shotgun and remember the words of five finger death punch. [spoiler]Under and Over It[/spoiler]
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2 AntwortenAll the criers really piss me off and I titan main and can make another titan waste all of his hammers by moving In a weird way. And if my class gets nerf I might just break my game!!!
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3 AntwortenAs someone how has mained a Titan since the beta I just want to say the the Sunbreaker is garbage. It takes no skill to use and is so it's almost broken. People who say Titans were under powered in Y1 can go give Crota a handy. Defender rules in PvE and was a power house in PvP if you are smart about using your bubble. All I have to say about the Striker is I love Shoulder Charge and Helm of Inmost Light.
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Just wait til trials when we are once again only useful when our supers are up. HUNTERS HAVE -blam!-ING WALL HACKS BUILT -INTO- THE CLASS. IN A SHOOTER!!! Hence why I'm gearing mine.
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7 AntwortenI still main striker in pvp. I think I'm part of a dying breed.
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2 AntwortenAngel of light? Are you fuking retared?
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2 AntwortenBungie is looking into it now, it's up to them what happens at this point. They don't use the forums for evidence so I don't see why this argument still exists. It's simply in their hands now, no sense in stressing out.
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1 AntwortenI can't hold any more tears, all my buckets are full and I've drank my fill. Here, you take this full bucket and drink up. You've become dehydrated and salty
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1 AntwortenStopped reading when you said angel of light is a good counter to hammers... the perk that holds you in the air just so it's easier to hit you with a hammer. You're a complete moron.
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1 AntwortenDidn't read anything but I watched the clip and that couldn't have happened if that sunbreaker didn't miss his first hammer. Also, he had a teammate helping him out even though I'm not sure he did anything at all.[spoiler]Instead of arguing about Sunbreakers can someone please tell me the name of that fusion rifle and is it from the gunsmith?[/spoiler]
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2 AntwortenEmpyrian bellicose and angle of light as a sunbreaker counter?? this is just plain stupid
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2 AntwortenFourth horseman DESTROYS sunbreakers
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3 AntwortenStopped reading at the part where angel of light is considered a counter to sunbreaker.
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honestly the change just needs to be made to the mobility + massive armor. I think that if the titan chooses specific options for their super that if they sit on a sunspot the current dmg resistance is just fine but in order for them to keep that dmg resistance they have to stay in sunspot...this takes away their mobility making them both strong in offense and defense but requiring them to stay with their sunspots. The other option they have is to gain mobility at the cost of the dmg resistance and overshield the sunspots provide. Now they are heavy in offense and can run around using their super on the enemy team but at the risk of being killed since they do not have any dmg resistance or overshield to absorb the enemy shots. This would give the titans great flexibility in how they utilize their super based on the users preference but still balances it out because right now titans just say "LOL I haz super me go kill everything since me cannot be hurt and can throw hammer long distance super fast".
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I wish people stop crying OP towards Titans and yell at Bungie instead. If anyone was paying any attention during the initial class previews, the Forgemaster perk was different. It used to be that HoS lasted longer the more health you had. Now it gives it anyone (no health requirement) AND it gives a larger radius. Stop yelling at people who play Titans and blame Bungie instead.
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5 AntwortenOnly thing I have against the sung breaker is the over shield might be 2 strong When I blast a rocket at a warlock no matter what super it dies When I blast a rocket at a hunter no mater what super it dies. Exclude the bubble that makes sense that if u shoot out side the bubble it won't hurt the players with in it I know 1 rocket won't take it down I hit one dead on took some damage but didn't flinch I have Hurd 2 rockets not seen that though.
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All I'm saying is if I headshot a titan with a 100 yard stare it should kill you. Every other super is that way besides bubble obviously.
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9 AntwortenBearbeitet von Zoom: 10/19/2015 5:55:05 AMI could not agree more with OP. I'm a main titan and a skilled pvp player (yes, lighthouse trails every week 3 times..) And even I admit that some people outplay me straight up from time to time and dying while I use Sunbreaker. Yes its strong and finally some competetive nature for the titan other then running striker in trails with alpha lupi just to save your super for when the enemy decides to bladedance your team. Sometimes to counter a super is to use a SUPER.. Now do you know how frustrating team suppressing arrows to the face are? Or multiple? (QUIVER) it takes away that Sunbreaker easy How about that new warlock thats insane fast, hard to get away from and even harder to juke duo to ionic blink.. and easily scores Penta kills.. I think people are really overreacting.. Bungie should not nerf a subclass because people cry on the forums, neither should they only look at pvp data, its stupid and will impact PvE players as well. Its perfectly balanced the way it is. Just adapt to the meta, prepare for it. Everything thats new can be called OP because people dont see the counter yet..
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After some time in the crucible, people are finally getting used to hammer of sol. At first they weren't used to Titans dominating them because of year 1 easy kills.
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I try to shade step out of it but no matter what i get hit by the hammers.......... eh oh well
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9 AntwortenLol. I could almost guarantee that if my clan and I 6 manned with all sunbreakers we wouldn't lose, to anyone, ever.
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the class itself is not op but the super is nroken in pvp NOT pve. needs a tweak thats all.
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6 AntwortenI'm sorry, but it is :/ it needs balancing tho, not nerfing.