Made a post before where I called for a pvp red death nerf and said how prevalent it would be in Iron Banner and ToO. Got a lot of hate for it but oh well, I don't really give a shit. Lots of people got hate for calling for a Thorn nerf, Final Round, Sunbreaker, etc..... I should have originally made a post about pulse rifles in general instead of singling out Red Death but oh well. Let's play a game... Go into an Iron Banner match. Then inspect each player. Count the number of Red Deaths. Then count the number of pulse rifles. Then count the number of ALL OTHER PRIMARY TYPES COMBINED. AFTER YOU DO THIS then come here and try to tell me that pulse rifles are not OP at all. This shit is just as obnoxious as Thorn, take it down a notch please. The issue is that it (and pulse rifles) outclasses all other primary classes. You can outsnipe snipers and scouts with red death. In ToO it gives you guaranteed instant health regen which allows you to fairly easily solo elimination teams if you know what you're doing. It -blam!-s with the dynamic of every firefight just as much as Thorn forcing you to take cover does, it's just that because it benefits the user nobody complains about it. My solution would be to make health regen not proc 100% of time on guardians (or require headshots to reward skilled usaged) and to bring the pulse rifle archetype [i]ever so slightly down[/i]. It isn't just Red Death however, pulse rifles are really too powerful now in general (Bungie you guys seem to be a little heavy handed with your nerfs and buffs. Make hand cannons not be total shit across the board please? Leave Thorn and TLW shitty, thats fine.) Bungie please at least post some weapon stats for Iron Banner and ToO next week so I have some data to prove my point. Oh also, I'll save you guys the time: "DrFaye you are trash lololol git gud!!!1111 I have 12.374 kd I am the best and I have no -blam!-ing life. How dare you ask for some balance in Destiny I will whine and cry and throw a lil tantrum because you attacked my crutch gun" Please at least form a cohesive counter-argument as to why Red Death and pulse rifles are is fine the way it is instead of sounding like a 7 year old squeeker troll. Or stfu and gtfo. I hope I will be dancing on Red Death's grave just as I danced on Final round, shot package, thorn, etc. Shits just as annoying at the moment. I'm sure it's inevitable at this point, I have been counting some Iron Banner matches where Red Death accounts for [i]half[/i] of the equipped primaries. EDIT: I know mommy and daddy didn't give some of you enough attention but don't look for it here. I'm not going to waste my time responding to trolls who can't even use logic to form a counter-argument. Don't waste your breath (or your keystrokes I guess....) EDIT 2: Maybe I should spin it this way as people seem to hate hearing the dirty word "nerf": [u]Let's [i]BUFF[/i] all the other weapons besides pulse rifles[/u]. Does that hurt you a little less to hear it said that way? Same goal just different method and a shorter average time to kill. And please stop acting like balance is a dirty thing. In a game like Destiny with hundreds of unique weapons and more on the way it's inevitable. EDIT 3: Thanks for the laughs trolls. You guys need to try harder though. Hard to take any of you seriously about anything when you don't have enough brain cells to debate me and resort to name calling and crying like a little girl lolololol EDIT 4: For all you clever little boys... NO SHIT I AM USING RED DEATH! Why wouldn't I? I mean it's pretty much one of the most OP guns in the game and I would be at a disadvantage if I didn't when entire fireteams of 6 are using them. Also, would you prefer I never had any experience using a Red Death before I passed judgement on it? I wreck with this shit. Too much. EDIT 5: lol still scrubs coming here to tell me to "git gud" even when they have 0.8kd and shit, too funny. TL;DR [i]Slight[/i] nerf to pulse rifles, buff autos and hand cannons back out of the gutter and leave scout rifles alone. Fixed your game for you Bungie. Balance is not "chasing the dragon" despite what your overly-emotional asses think, and don't blame me for the fact that Bungie doesn't know how to balance their game. Not all of us are cool with there being 1 primary choice.