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Bearbeitet von Clutch4Icecream:
10/7/2015 6:02:57 PM
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Im gonna Say it "Nerfing Thorn Broke Crucible"
I have to say it.... The current Balance in PVP is Balanced, but in a awkward way. I think the Nerf to hand cannons really did break the game. We use to have so many GO TO Guns, Vex, Red Death, Thorn, Last Word, Mida. Now all of these guns feel Odd with the current META. I dont understand if its the new guns or just simply the new maps Maybe its a combination of the two?
Honestly the GOTO Gun now is the messenger archetype pulse rifles /Shotty Combo, you can argue that Messenger takes actual skill to use but i totally disagree... Now that there is hardly any guns that can counter it, it becomes the problem. I feel like shotguns, Hand cannons, even pulse rifles were fine, Why didnt we just buff the guns that no one used because they sucked? Why did we nerf EVERYTHING down to there level except Pulse rifles? They're honestly more frustrating to deal with now then Thorn Ever Was.
Some serious thought needs to be done to the next balancing patch. The game feels more broken now then when thorn was 2 shotting from Antarctica range.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Maybe I'm the problem? Im not terrible by no means... So i know skill is not the factor here.
Edit 1: Clarification, Hand cannons are a mess currently, there range got nerfed way to hard. pulse rifles are to strong at scout rifle ranges. Scouts are completely omitted by pulse rifles. Auto rifles still are not good
Edit 2: I'm not saying nerfing thorn directly broke crucible, the amount of bitching because of thorn and tlw got allllllll hand cannons nerfed and they all got a serious undeserving nerf
Edit 3: Seems the community is pretty split on this patch. Many agree and many disagree and some are in the middle.
Edit 4: I agree thorn and tlw needed a nerf.
Edit 5: since we are all here... Might as well talk about this current issue too lol [url]https://account.xbox.com/en-us/gameclip/b03fa954-cc34-4a76-ba34-8ed9dda39a72?gamerTag=Clutch4IceCream&scid=37770100-f9ae-4b80-9dad-7c1d0ec14469[/url]
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Messenger? Lol
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Hand cannons make sense now. They shouldn't be sniping.
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I'm actually glad to see different weapons in the crucible when I die it's better than seeing the same weapon over and over again
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No way I much prefer it now. You can pretty much make anything work. The game used to be all hand cannon all the time - I used thorn a lot because it was so ridiculously overpowered. (Yes I'm a dirty scrub and I'm not proud) Personally I much prefer a more balanced meta. I'd like a slight buff to autorifles though.
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I understand making guns equal in the crucible but I believe exotics should have an edge in crucible. I feel like all my exotics that I've gotten are just average weapons now.
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I miss the old way man. No thorn, vex etc really makes it odd. Kind of miss the get away moment thorn just hit me! Haha
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No way I much prefer it now. You can pretty much make anything work. The game used to be all hand cannon all the time - I used thorn a lot because it was so ridiculously overpowered. (Yes I'm a dirty scrub and I'm not proud) Personally I much prefer a more balanced meta. I'd like a slight buff to autorifles though.
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14 AntwortenThorn and last word doesn't need a nerf they needed fixing, but because of all the cry baby Titans all hand cannons got nerfed
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I'm some what glad because all I used to get killed by was tlw, nearly EVERYONE used it because it was just that good. However legendary handcannons did get shafted pretty bad.
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Can't argue my rare evergreen ll.l still rules the crucible loool
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No way I much prefer it now. You can pretty much make anything work. The game used to be all hand cannon all the time - I used thorn a lot because it was so ridiculously overpowered. (Yes I'm a dirty scrub and I'm not proud) Personally I much prefer a more balanced meta. I'd like a slight buff to autorifles though.
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No way I much prefer it now. You can pretty much make anything work. The game used to be all hand cannon all the time - I used thorn a lot because it was so ridiculously overpowered. (Yes I'm a dirty scrub and I'm not proud) Personally I much prefer a more balanced meta. I'd like a slight buff to autorifles though.
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I disagree, so yesterday I had a quest to get 6 hand cannon kills in crucible and win the game x3, I had a yr 2 hawkmoon on my character so thought I'd use that, but I kept getting destroyed, I started to think this'easy' quest was actually harder than I thought it would be, I then thought what the heck, bring out the thorn cos it can't be any worse than I had been doing with hawkmoon......to my astonishment I won 3 games in a row, not only did I win but I won easily, getting kd's of just under +3. So my new to go gun for crucible.....THORN Also got a nice message after a game, saying it was great to see someone using the thorn, not only using it it using it well. That put a smile on my face.
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I think it is in a good spot. Depending on the map I change my loadout, I will say my most used is Hawksaw. On smaller maps I use Hawkmoon or The Summoner. Larger maps I use Mida or other scouts. Fusion rifles are still not the best, and most maps still cater to shotguns.
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1 AntwortenHawkmoon is the new thorn
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Bearbeitet von kadam83: 10/7/2015 4:45:42 PMI don't entirely agree. I'm loving the new Crucible and weapon balancing. I'm by no means a good PvP player, but I have fun in it and I've noticed since TTK that my K/D has actually gotten better. In regards to HCs, my current PVP Go To is Hawkmoon. I have a great time with this gun, and if I ever find I'm not getting the speed I need from it I switch to either Bad Juju or SUROS Regime. I also don't run Shotguns. I have an FWC Vortex Fusion with accelerated coils and 8 in the mag. It wrecks in PvP if you get used to the charge time vs pulling the trigger and expecting a shot to fire. I can one-shot people from 25 feet away with it.
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I enjoy not being killed by the same guns
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Its better but there are some improvements. Auto rifles. Simple idea for me. Reduce the flinch against guardians. Will help people accurately aim at them and they won't lose damage. Pulse rifles. They need a little less damage. Shotguns. Shot package, range finder need to go. Full auto shouldn't boost the fire rate either. Snipers. Luck in the chamber will be a problem sooner or later. Supers. You can guess which one needs a little tuning down. Swords are fine but i don't think supers should drain a swords ammo completely. Apart from nova bomb and FOH if anyone still uses them.
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I feel like the crucible has never played better personally.
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I have had great success with scouts in crucible, and I honestly don't see that many pulse rifles. Hand cannons are still incredibly good from my experience as well. Perhaps because I use scouts primarily is why I haven't noticed pulse rifles, as I usually fight from very long range. I also believe that sidearms are greatly underappreciated. They simply TEAR through guardians outside of shotgun range, and I can usually fend off shotgun rushers with them. I enjoy the new meta, but as an owner of the messenger, it is still a bit wonky right now. I'm not sure why it wasn't affected like hopscotch pilgrim and other heavy pulses.
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Yeah I'm a fan of bad juju, that's my go to gun for IB but I got used to hand cannons thanks to WoC and then Thorn. But now I can't use any other weapon other than thorn, I'm still not sure why since I never really used it for crucible. It really is a crutch for me now. Oh well I still got bad juju for IB lol
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Am I the only one that uses TLW now? It does feel different, butI win 95% of my 1v1 encounters and alot of the time I can kill a second one with the same mag. Even at long range, you can still kill someone.
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1 AntwortenHawkmoon is the new broken
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Since 2.0 I seen post complaining about... Pulse rifles are op Hawkmoon is op Last Word is still op Swords are op Rockets are op Fusion rifles are op Shotguns take no skill Snipers take no skill Looks good to me : )
