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Bearbeitet von Clutch4Icecream:
10/7/2015 6:02:57 PM
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Im gonna Say it "Nerfing Thorn Broke Crucible"
I have to say it.... The current Balance in PVP is Balanced, but in a awkward way. I think the Nerf to hand cannons really did break the game. We use to have so many GO TO Guns, Vex, Red Death, Thorn, Last Word, Mida. Now all of these guns feel Odd with the current META. I dont understand if its the new guns or just simply the new maps Maybe its a combination of the two?
Honestly the GOTO Gun now is the messenger archetype pulse rifles /Shotty Combo, you can argue that Messenger takes actual skill to use but i totally disagree... Now that there is hardly any guns that can counter it, it becomes the problem. I feel like shotguns, Hand cannons, even pulse rifles were fine, Why didnt we just buff the guns that no one used because they sucked? Why did we nerf EVERYTHING down to there level except Pulse rifles? They're honestly more frustrating to deal with now then Thorn Ever Was.
Some serious thought needs to be done to the next balancing patch. The game feels more broken now then when thorn was 2 shotting from Antarctica range.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Maybe I'm the problem? Im not terrible by no means... So i know skill is not the factor here.
Edit 1: Clarification, Hand cannons are a mess currently, there range got nerfed way to hard. pulse rifles are to strong at scout rifle ranges. Scouts are completely omitted by pulse rifles. Auto rifles still are not good
Edit 2: I'm not saying nerfing thorn directly broke crucible, the amount of bitching because of thorn and tlw got allllllll hand cannons nerfed and they all got a serious undeserving nerf
Edit 3: Seems the community is pretty split on this patch. Many agree and many disagree and some are in the middle.
Edit 4: I agree thorn and tlw needed a nerf.
Edit 5: since we are all here... Might as well talk about this current issue too lol [url]https://account.xbox.com/en-us/gameclip/b03fa954-cc34-4a76-ba34-8ed9dda39a72?gamerTag=Clutch4IceCream&scid=37770100-f9ae-4b80-9dad-7c1d0ec14469[/url]
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Lmao idiot
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Bearbeitet von Sentinel Dan: 10/7/2015 5:22:19 PMOh no they nerfed the gun 80% of the community used, now they have to actually use a gun the takes any skill whatsoever! Oh the humanity!
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Jade Rabbit trashes Messenger just fine :v
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You shouldn't have Go To guns that you know are the best, you should be able to look at any gun and know that the game is balanced Aniyah that you could use it effectively.
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Only 2 guns needed a nerf but they decided to -blam!- everything up.
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2 AntwortenGetting rid of all first year guns broke a bit of the game still want all first year strikes back too
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PVP is trash...
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No one understands the game yet after the big change we are still trying to find a new weapon that fits us and don't say red death is gone because it is the new thorn and never will it ever be as bad a the thron that burn was the dumbest thing I think I've ever seen in a game
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1 Antworten"I have to use a variety of weapons! Crucible is broken."
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Bearbeitet von cxbar: 10/7/2015 5:10:55 PM
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This is the first time since launch I can go into any mode and use any weapon and stay on par with my pedestrian KD. Pulse. Auto. HC. Scout. Sniper. Shotgun. Fusion. Machine gun. Launcher. Sidearm. Everything seems to work fine. On top of that I rarely run into a team running with duplicate weapons.
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I've never disliked something so fast.
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3 AntwortenIdiot. [spoiler]muted[/spoiler]
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1 AntwortenI'm loving my Supercell in crucible the most. It takes time to get the kill, but it has been working well for me.
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stop [u]stop [b]STOP[/b][/u]
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I was killed by a scout rifle earlier that wasn't a mida. That never happened before 2.0
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3 AntwortenBearbeitet von Vinyl on Fleek: 10/7/2015 9:37:31 AMIn my honest opinion they almost got the primaries all balanced with the exception of messenger and insane auto rifle drop off. but that's not the problem... The real problem is the primary to secondary balance, mainly seen with shotguns, is no one wants to use a nerfed primary that takes 100% more time to kill then there trusty old fell-winters from the same damn range. Its obvious to me now that's what Bungie wants. Bungie wants to cater to everyone by keeping shotguns OP. Has anyone ever heard anyone say shotguns require to much gun skill? Obviously not because they don't require any at all you pull the trigger once anywhere on your enemies body and they disappear. Anyone can run around or blink around with a shotgun and be in someones face in less then 3 seconds after they see each-other, and what, unless they are a hunter and have quick-draw on there is very little time to react and pull out your shotgun aim down just to realize he already sniped you from 100 feet away, or god forbid you are using an actual sniper you might as-well exit your game right there. You are not going to stand there and have enough time to 4 shot him with a scout or control an auto rifle kick while backpedaling and 5 more guys are running at you with more shotguns that have less of a drop off then your auto rifle. Shotguns where 100x more tolerable in year 1 because of the primary kill time. And by primary kill time I mean hand cannons. They where perfect minus the thorn's outrageous burn damage and tlw range with full auto.. What I am trying to explain is the exact reason halo worked so well with guns that seemed like they took forever to kill a guy.The reason they worked so well is because you couldn't run an infinite distance across the map at 100 mph, you couldn't teleport, glide, boost, double jump away... You where grounded and had a single jump that was very slow and made you vulnerable. In a game where you can get to the other side of an entire map in less then 10 seconds, sprint run jump, jump again, and again, and maybe even quadruple jump... or blink, or glide, or boost whatever it is this is a fast moving high action game and the only way to have satisfaction with a fast moving action packed pvp game is primaries MUST do a great deal of damage or people running around with sniper shotguns will be forever on the top of the throne waaay above every other weapon. Its simple you are at a disadvantage if you use a primary on 99% of maps in this game. Bungie don't think nerf unless you think buff first...
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1 AntwortenI think hand cannons were nerfed too hard as well. They should've just nerfed thorn and last word but not kill all hand cannons.
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3 AntwortenOk ok honest question, the -blam!- is META stand for?
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Lol what? At least other weapons are viable. A scout can easy outplay a pulse and both of them fall short at close range, which is where auto rifles are good (I love auto rifles right now). Legendary hand cannons definitely got a bunch of unnecessary nerfs due to all the complaining, but I'm glad thorn and tlw got nerfed into the ground. I think the just need to buff legendary hand cannons a bit and eliminate stability upgrades on pulse rifles. You can still get stupidly high stability on them which is, in my opinion, why they are as good as they are. But I think you saying it's worse now is a bit of an exaggeration. At least now when I get outgunned I know their accuracy was a bit better than mine in that engagement, whereas with the thorn/tlw meta I felt cheated every time I: A. Killed a thorn user but died to burn (when I would have killed him and escaped with any other gun), B. Got melted with tlw by some kid holding RT down before I could even react, or C. Got spammed from pulse/scout range with the thorn
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1 AntwortenYou say tlw and thorn got all cannons nerfed, but were people using any other cannons besides those 2 in crucible?
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I agree about the pulse rifle strength, theyre currently a little too strong at scout rifle range. They should be strong at medium range, having slightly more range than auto rifles. Scouts should be king at long range, but theyre overshadowed by pulse rifles. Personally i think hand cannons could use a slight buff to range, nothing drastic. Pulse rifles need a slight nerf to range. Everything else seems pretty decently balanced currently.
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"So many go to guns" Names 5 exotics. We have far more than that now. The only difference is that they are not guns with ridiculous ttk's. Many more guns due to much greater balance.
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I seriously cannot comprehend this......guns are finally balanced!!!! Handcannons work at their intended range. PS- I cannot wait for Trials to return.
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Messenger? Lol
