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Bearbeitet von Clutch4Icecream:
10/7/2015 6:02:57 PM
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Im gonna Say it "Nerfing Thorn Broke Crucible"
I have to say it.... The current Balance in PVP is Balanced, but in a awkward way. I think the Nerf to hand cannons really did break the game. We use to have so many GO TO Guns, Vex, Red Death, Thorn, Last Word, Mida. Now all of these guns feel Odd with the current META. I dont understand if its the new guns or just simply the new maps Maybe its a combination of the two?
Honestly the GOTO Gun now is the messenger archetype pulse rifles /Shotty Combo, you can argue that Messenger takes actual skill to use but i totally disagree... Now that there is hardly any guns that can counter it, it becomes the problem. I feel like shotguns, Hand cannons, even pulse rifles were fine, Why didnt we just buff the guns that no one used because they sucked? Why did we nerf EVERYTHING down to there level except Pulse rifles? They're honestly more frustrating to deal with now then Thorn Ever Was.
Some serious thought needs to be done to the next balancing patch. The game feels more broken now then when thorn was 2 shotting from Antarctica range.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Maybe I'm the problem? Im not terrible by no means... So i know skill is not the factor here.
Edit 1: Clarification, Hand cannons are a mess currently, there range got nerfed way to hard. pulse rifles are to strong at scout rifle ranges. Scouts are completely omitted by pulse rifles. Auto rifles still are not good
Edit 2: I'm not saying nerfing thorn directly broke crucible, the amount of bitching because of thorn and tlw got allllllll hand cannons nerfed and they all got a serious undeserving nerf
Edit 3: Seems the community is pretty split on this patch. Many agree and many disagree and some are in the middle.
Edit 4: I agree thorn and tlw needed a nerf.
Edit 5: since we are all here... Might as well talk about this current issue too lol [url]https://account.xbox.com/en-us/gameclip/b03fa954-cc34-4a76-ba34-8ed9dda39a72?gamerTag=Clutch4IceCream&scid=37770100-f9ae-4b80-9dad-7c1d0ec14469[/url]
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Uhm, this a joke right?
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I have no sympathy for hand cannons. They still perform really well at duck in, duck out style combat that is viable on most maps. So they can't win all medium to long range engagements. What were pulse rifles and scout rifles supposed to be used for if hand cannons had their ranges zipped up? Most people seemed to have wised up and switched to pulse rifles.
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That's how you know it is balanced. There is no go to gun because they all work. That's the way it should be. Shotguns are still annoying but far more counterable. No ohk abuse snipers. If you have any amount of gun skill it's far better. For me supers are the annoying part. I die if I use my super. And other supers kill me more than weapons. But that's destiny. I just stay away from mayhem. But guns are balanced. Pick one that feels good in your hands and go with it.
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I hate the crucible now compared to pre ttk
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von DaCannonnn: 10/8/2015 1:58:41 AMThe problem is that Bungie doesn't know how to nerf a single over powered gun. They nerf a whole class instead. That's why autorifles were trash for 6 months when only the Suros needed to be nerfed. They did the same to hand cannons because thorn and tlw needed a nerf. They just don't know what they're doing, somehow.
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Poor baby. Did you lose your crutch? Now you have to work at it? Awww..... /s
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Yup, not as fun anymore, played a few times, more flaming hammers than anything and the Emperor from Star Wars has been seen floating around occasionally. Just my opinion, I hope I can find a way to enjoy it again.
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Has nobody tried out the Jade Rabbit? That is my absolute go-to right now. I'm not even sure if the perk works tbh, it's just the fact that it's damage is so high with crits. If you can hit the head, that thing is the way to go.
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I usually run suros regime-preatorian foil-void edge Works great, PF works very well at close to mid range and has effectively saved me many times (I stopped a nova bomb from a full health warlock) and if it doesn't kill them suros regime easily finishes them off.
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Bearbeitet von highskoolpecoach: 10/8/2015 1:59:10 AMThorn is still powerfull and id take a scout rifle over a pulse any day
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Cry me a river hahahahaha I'm sorry but when I hear people complain about this gun I'm just over hear thinking y because u actually have to try now and use those so called skills lol
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I used thorn almost exclusively, though I did very little pvp, and do agree it needed a nerf what wasn't needed was the overreaction that in turn effected all hand cannons. I feel they need to bring either the range or accuracy back up to where it was, not both but one or the other even if only partially. To clarify I don't want thorn back up to where it was but I would like to see hand cannons in general be returned to some shade of their former glory.
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Miss the Thorn. I miss the hate
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9 AntwortenBearbeitet von Wyntr Wolve: 10/7/2015 8:12:46 PMIn Trials and IB it's not viable to use and it's now impossible to get.... so it'll eventually die out [spoiler]and BTW, nice 5,000 Thorn kills, 2,000 Last Word kills, and 1,900 Red Death kills[/spoiler]
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1 Antwortenlow impact pulse rifles are so broken
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The game feels more broken than when Thorn as 2 shotting? The -blam!- kind of crack are you smoking.
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I like the meta, simply because there isn't really a meta.
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Didn't even read, thorn deserved it
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Nope. Guns still kill stuff like they're supposed to.
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7 AntwortenDude shut the -blam!- up. The Red Death is still the same. And I bet this is coming from someone who relied on a Thorn or LW.
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from the uk i admit i havnt played crucible much since ttk apart from featured maps for marks but everytime i have its still tlw/thorn iv even been knocked out of my hammer by both guns and a few shotties so the hos isnt that bad you still get humped the invective still gets the nod as a shotty due to the construction of the new maps as there small and tight ..............and next year there will be fan favourite maps none of which will actually be a favourite you heard it here first .........
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So you want a cod multiplayer?
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You're right. I was around before the all mighty nerf gun turned its scopes towards the mythoclast. The brief period of time between the release of the gun and the nerf, i died a lot of times. But the gun didnt make we want to quit crucible, sure it was rough at times and annoying, but it really made me want to get that gun and strive towards it. It didn't make me want to never play crucible. Bungie biffed hardcore. Maybe they could've nerfed the specific exotics a bit, but not the whole class of guns because of just one or two guns. Now I dont want to play crucible as much because most of the fun guns suck now. Now the only good gun really is Golden-Gun. So lets hope they fix this stuff a wee-bit and re-buff all of the guns. I liked that auto-rifles used to be able hold their own from more than shot gun range, but now they can't, and they are useless in the crucible. They did this to countless guns and gun-types in crucible, and by extension PVE. So lets hope they dont make even more mistakes like that.
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you're just sad cause there is a little balance in pvp now...
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4 AntwortenPulse rifles are undeniably the strongest primary in the current overwhelmingly so. Nothing feels more unfair when you're on the receiving end and broken when you know you're winning firefights based on this crutch. I say this as someone who's k/d jumped up substantially since I got the apple of discord.
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Bearbeitet von Classy Snowman: 10/8/2015 12:15:22 AMI respect your opinion, but I disagree. I very much enjoy using auto rifles and having fun with them. That being said, pulse rifles [i]could[/i] use a range tweak. Then everything, I think, would be balanced. Well thought out post, though. Thank you for sharing your thoughts in a constructive way.
