I paid for trials of Osiris when it came with the house of wolves dlc. Now because of the taken King it has been removed and will come back with locked gear for only TTK owners and previous gear will be removed. Also because it has level advantages anyone who hasn't wanted to pay £40 so they can get to level 40 is left behind.
JUST TO MAKE EVERYONE CLEAR I DON'T WANT ANYTHING FROM THE TTK I BELIEVE IT TO BE A WASTE OF MONEY AND TOO MUCH REPETITIVE GRIND.
BUT.....
i want to be able to play a gamemode I have paid money for !! Trials of Osiris came with house of wolves I BOUGHT HOUSE OF WOLVES..
STOP BEING SCUMMY AND TRYING TO FORCE NEW DLC ON PEOPLE BY REMOVING OLD PARTS FROM PREVIOUS DLC AND MAKING THE GAME SHIT.
WILL NOT WORK ON ME !! AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SPREAD A BAD NAME ABOUT BUNGIE AND DESTINY AND ESPECIALLY ACTIVISION.
NO SKIN OF MY BACK.
HASTA LA VICTORIA SEMPRE.
EDIT: here is a very easy and sensible solution to this problem. Have two trails of Osiris options. One for non TTK players with level cap 34 and the new one with level cap 40 for TTK players.
This will never happen though because bungie are doing anything to make you buy the new dlc
EDIT 2: allot of people agreeing there should be a trials or osiris for 34s who don't own TTK and a separate one for ttk owners OR just have a generic level cap of 34 so EVERYONE can continue to play
EDIT3: " trials was free and didn't come with house of wolves" RIGHT.... So your telling me the only thing we paid for was prison of elders ? (I don't count the 2 min story missions and strikes as content). That's weird how trials was heavily advertised as part of house of wolves.
EDIT4: " I don't care about you and nobody else here does" that's cute I know it hurts when you see someone comment about bungies shady business practice. I know it reminds you how hard they are -blam!-ing you. I know that's why it makes you have to comment...even know you don't care.
EDIT: I also want someone from bungie to answer why pvp game modes have been removed for non TTK owners. Im unable to play elimination or skirmish or Control by itself. The classic playlists are completely unacceptable and show disrespect to anyone who did not purchase TTK. As a customer who has put money into this game I deserve an ANSWER OR A RESPONSE FOR ONCE.
Anytime I want to play skirmish I get put into a game of salvage where the my team is down 2500 points. I have to leave then get the same again. Takes me 30
Mins to get a game of skirmish then if I do get a game my team gets split up because we win and then I'm back to square one. You have punished non TTK owners
Why does deej or Cosmo not reply ? The pair of you make me sick. I hope you don't sleep at night knowing what bungie has become. Nobody is going to remember you for halo! You will be remembered for this scam of a game.
EDIT: "trials was free and not part of house of wolves"
IF YOU DID NOT BUY HOUSE OF WOLVES THEN YOU DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
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7 AntwortenBearbeitet von gallp13: 10/10/2015 11:45:29 PM[b]TL:DR - Destiny is a subscription product [/b] Not here to agree with you, laugh at your situation or defend or agree with Bungie or Activision. Here to state the facts - Destiny pricing is in effect and annual subscription fee. If you read the Activision earnings calls and annual report in the lead up to release and year one, the Bungie-Activision contract and consider $500m of front end Activision investment in the franchise the business model is; 1. Build a recurrent player base; and 2. Get them to pay a base amount for each annual major release. This returns the cost of capital and a premium to Activision and its investors. 3. DLC and micro-trans provide the cream if you will - it wouldn't surprise me if these more risky return elements are used by Activision to pay Bungie's annual performance bonus (whilst an oft used Contract mechanism I am just speculating). Activision and Bungie will be closely examining just how many year 1 players have taken up TTK. If the numbers are solid - then folks who have not paid for TTK will be left behind. If the numbers need a boost then Bungie and Activision will consider whether; 1. It is worth changing access to invite non TTK Guardians back into the fold. The issue is this group are not loyal and generally demand high cost new product features - cf their forum posts. They don't ultimately fit the business model as retention costs are too high and they can general similar behaviour in the broader recurrent play base (the "one bad apple" effect). Activision have a wealth of consumer behaviour data on this matter through the CoD franchise and will be confident of their ground as Destiny runs to the same base model - albeit without rotating devs needed to address production/quality/time needs typical of smaller capacity studios. 2. Build new content to attract new players. This approach will be appealing because it can be done at low incremental dev cost (the engine is now established), keeps exiting players feeling loved and with COD style marketing (inc tubers, casters, MLP and promotion of forum and Community darlings - sound familiar) attract the 15-25 target demographic. Activision will likely argue for the latter approach as this is consistent with their actual market experience - read the Marty judgement, the contract and financial reports the writing is well and truely on the wall on this matter. Since Activision have the final say on marketing and pricing (cf Contract) it's reasonable to conclude approach two is more likely be adopted. It's funny you know, and again just observing not taking sides, Activision's build - retain - annual fee (sub) model works well for folks who; 1. Loyal and happy with a fun non taxing product they can play with friends and like minded Community members (majority TTKers); and 2. Love the product but at times give well intentioned and entitled critical feedback (aka polarising forum shills/darlings depending on your POV - Destiny has its Wiggy's - the ancient vets will get this reference). It does not work well for; 3. The uber angry forum poster who firmly believes a product they bought in year one should work with year one features in tact. This doesn't fit the Corporate subscription model that is now clearly in play.
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You can shout about it all you like but trails did NOT come with house of wolves, it was introduced alongside house of wolves. Trials was introduced as end game content, your no longer the highest level so can't play end game content...it really is very simple.
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5 AntwortenI agree with you, but most of this community is just toxic and dumb. I would think CoD has a better and smarter community than this.
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1 AntwortenI feel you bro. Haters have a right to hate as you have a right to feedback as well. I do believe its wrong for them to lock others from content they already purchased. Even if its hidden in fine print i still feel it was morally wrong as human beings/Americans to avoid being transparent and totally misleading in TTK advertisements. Good luck bro and from here just know you have the right to not support them any further. Youre also welcome to spread the word to other gamers. Take care
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Bearbeitet von SpacemanSpff434: 10/18/2015 5:40:55 PMBump. I do have ttk but this is shady. Bungie should have level 20 dailies, nightfalls and trials so that people that didn't buy ttk can play and enjoy the game they did buy. And level 20 ToO is easy, just limit the power curve to level 20, and keep level 40 folks from playing by limiting reward to level 20.
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1 AntwortenEndgame.
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Bearbeitet von Mordak: 10/12/2015 7:59:32 PMI had always thought it odd they had level advantages enabled back in HoW, but it makes sense now, as it gives them an excuse to exclude non TTK buyers. I say turn off level advantages and give non TTKers access again and only award them the old ToO loot.
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Bearbeitet von DestinysInBeta: 10/18/2015 5:34:52 PMBumpfortruth, sheep will find any excuse to defend their shepherd. Even though the shepherd is -blam!-ing the sheep (thats right, bungie is a bunch of sheep -blam!-ers!)
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1 AntwortenO no I agree let u in trials so I can -blam!- your cheap ass
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This isn't new, people already know this. The whole point of iron banner and trials is that there are level advantages and the damage of weapons actually matter. If they brought down the level and damage of higher level guardians then that defeats the whole purpose
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1 AntwortenYou can play I bet but easy to kill
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4 AntwortenRead the fine print. It was and has been explained. It's like buying a new 2015 model vehicle and being upset when the 2016 model comes for the same price but more and better features. Either you should have waited or opt to drive a 2015 first.
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There should not be a collective level cap or else Y2 ToO will be filled with Y1 guns. I support a separate playlist for lvl 34's but 2 issues come to mind. 1) what would the rewards be? There is no content in game right now, except for the raids, that give you Y1 gear. I suppose they could incorporate the old rewards but honestly, with how effective the messenger is compared to Y2 guns I just don't see that happening. 2) How are we sure enough people would play? I think it's safe to say that the majority of non-TTK players don't play the game very much, so how are we even sure the resources needed for separate playlists would be worth it Again, I support having a separate playlist but honestly I'm just not completely sure it's viable.
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2 AntwortenTL;DR Bongy told me well in advance that non-TTK players would not be able to reach level 40. But I want to play ToO, a gamemode with level advantages. Bongy pls giv me.
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1 AntwortenAt least I can still say I got my exotic emblem before them. Same with my void Messenger and void Scholar :)
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Bearbeitet von BaneOfInfinity: 10/11/2015 5:45:07 PM!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm the 1000 post here, YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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7 AntwortenEven if you could play you would be up againt level 40's with awsome new guns
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3 AntwortenDead horse......check Idiot beating it.....check Idiotic moron who thinks deej and cozmo have anything to do with the content of the game.....check Go steal 40$ from your moms purse and buy ttk and enjoy it like everyone else or better yet just go away period.
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1 AntwortenNo skin off your back and you spread salt on their names yet you're still up in their forums commenting on their games??? You do what you do man I don't mean it in a negative way I wouldn't be on any of their stuff if I felt that strongly about it. You should buy taken King though it's sweet!!!!!
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Trials is locked because there will be light level 290+ and better weapons than the ones you guys have.
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Welcome to Destiny! Pay for sh*t you can't enjoy!