***I know final edit is long but it's primarily addressed to the 700 guardians who have already replied***
FINAL EDIT: The amount of salt this very non-controversial post of mine has garnered has both surprised and, ultimately, saddened me. For clarification, I simply asked a question couched in a very cautious, inquisitive, and open manner. What I received in response from the community was a level of contempt and animosity normally reserved for the very worst of "troll" posts.
Now, before you all start in with thinking that my booty is hurt, let me make it very clear, it is NOT... at least not because most of you disagree with me...
No, me being saddened by the whole thing rests solely at the feet of a realization about this community that has developed from combing through the details of the hundreds of frustrations, concerns, and excuses outlined in your replies... and that is this:
Bungie's current PvP product has simply become far too quick and twitchy for most of you. Almost every hysterical reply has included lamentations of things happening to you far too quickly and before you have a chance to counter said offense.
I'll be honest, I love Destiny PvP (Trials in particular) and dreamed about being part of a much more skilled, competitive, and, ultimately, mature (in a fps gamer sense) gaming community. The first two Halos did. Gears of War 3 did. And, Battlefield 4 currently has a very advanced player base. And let me just inform you, this community is no where near those! Not even close!
I mean, I've tried to imagine kids crying about the Pistols and Rockets in Halo being OP back in the day and just start laughing about quickly any moron like that would have been kicked out of the system link party for even thinking it. How about someone calling for the BXR combo to be patched in Halo 2? No way! You were expected to master it or GTFO! What if some half-bright asked for "wall bouncing/gnashers" in Gears of War 3 to be nerfed? 'Maybe it should have a cool down so I can collect myself before someone better than me wrecks my ass!' Not a chance! People would have looked at you like you were some kind of circus freak as the words were leaving your mouth.
IDK. I technically have no right to expect that of you all. Maybe this community was never going to be that... thus, I was naive by indulging in those hopes and desires. I appear to have been wrong in doing so.
Ehhh, I'm 36 now and those hard-d#%k bad a33es are off doing who knows what with their lives... admittedly, probably something better with their time. But, I now know they're definitely not part of this community and, as such, I'm left with you all who, unfortunately for me, have proven to be a terribly pitiful group of whiny, unskilled underachieving gamers to help carry on the legacy of the guys who made these kinds of games popular in the first place.
I'd say it would have been good for many of you to have known them, but, they would have been bored by you anyway.
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Original Post:
Is it just me or do the details of the weapon patch 2.0 make it sound like PvP is about to turn into a very boring style of play?
Here me out:
1.) Nerfing Blink - was one of the best ways to close on the enemy.
2.) Nerfing Shotguns and Fusion Rifles - effective weapon to kill with once closed on enemy.
3.) Nerfing Hand Cannons - really the only current viable primary class that's effective at remaining agile while shooting the enemy.
Seems pretty obvious that come 2.0 we'll all be taking shots at each other from a cross the map with our Snipers and Scout Rifles...
Yeah! Sounds like fun!
Edit #1: In light of the responders making incoherent claims about a current lack of weapon variety, I thought I would make a short list of weapons currently available to us... ALL of which if used by a good player will yield strong results.
Primary - Thorn, TLW, Hawk, Red Death, Bad Juju, MIDA, Messenger, Hop Scotch = 9.
Secondary - Fel Winter's, Matador, Party Crasher, Invective, Pocket Infinity, Plan C, LDR, Efrideets, Long Bow, Praedyth's, Her Benevolence = 11.
Heavy - Truth, Ghally, and the million other rocket launchers with horseshoes and grenades. Jolder's, Thunderlord, Corrective Measure.
Add in supers, melees, and grenades and I have to ask, how many f@#%ing choices do you need to be happy???!!!!!
Edit #2: You can almost be certain that if you are complaining about Blink then you are someone who does not know how to use it and must get owned by it regularly... what a scrubby defect... so easy to counter... I haven't been killed by one in probably 3 weeks.
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von Rabid: 8/25/2015 6:08:25 PMEveryone always jumps to conclusions your 100% wrong things won't even change that much might see more autos but if u have a good aim and don't rely on aim assist like most of u do then it's just fine nothing new hear learn the guns how to lead that's it
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10 AntwortenI rather have variety than encounter TLW and thorn the whole blam! time. And blink is just a easy trick to dodge everything.
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The current meta is worse. The reason you hand cannons seem to be "the only thing people use" is because [b]most[/b] of the time you've got to fight fire with fire. Thorn/TLW seem to be the only thing that can combat Thorn/TLW. Blink shotguns for the most part don't have a counter. If you can do it, fine, that's great. Most people cant. There needs to be some sort of variety. Everyone is tired of exotic hand cannons and blink shotgun. We're tired of final round snipers.
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I'll take actual balance over dying without being about to react. Nothing wrong with losers actually having to have to land shots and have some kind of gunskill. current meta is less about gunskill and more about op blink/ shotgun bladedance wearing lucky raspberry and stupid ass rocket launchers. patch make a lot of stuff viable and breathes fresh air into this games shit PVP.
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von Tryster: 8/25/2015 6:03:48 PMIt's just you. Edit: Although I should add I don't see the patch changing much unfortunately.
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1 AntwortenOP doesn't understand that these are all WAY overused in crucible. Hand cannons and shotguns needed a nerf. Thorn should not have more range than a scout rifle.
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1 AntwortenI'm tired of seeing thorn the last word all the time you have to use those weapons to do good or get wrecked I use blink it needs to be nerfed and do you need a handicap to be that good?
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6 AntwortenI kind of agree, but I'll hold off on judgment until I actually get to play the new meta. That said, I do prefer faster time to kills and not the slower halo multiplayer gameplay.
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Hell yeah that sounds like fun!
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2 AntwortenIf 2.0 just buffed autorifles a good bit, and scout rifles just a touch. The game would be pretty balanced.
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2 AntwortenThe current meta is boring.
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They shouldn't nerf blink or fusions
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von Killlerschaf: 8/25/2015 5:23:05 PMI pretty much agree with everything in the 2.0 update, except for a nerfed blink. Well, they should buff the Invective and the Universal remote though. Those are simply underwhelming PvP choices currently. The Found Verdict is the better Invective and the Partycrasher/Matador/Felwinter the better Universal remote.
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1 AntwortenUm... I use 55a allFATE Dry Rot 32 BTRD. What's my prize?
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4 Antworten[quote] Seems pretty obvious that come 2.0 we'll all be taking shots at each other from a cross the map with our Snipers and Scout Rifles... Yeah! Sounds like fun! [/quote] Genuinely sounds like fun
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4 AntwortenOr people that are reliant on having blink to get kills, which creates the vast majority of people in pvp being a blink spec / class and very little variety.
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Fuel beams can't melt steel jet
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1 AntwortenFunny thing is I've never been blink shot gunned
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Op obviously runs a thorn with a blink shotty. Confirmed scrub. Opinion automatically worthless.
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As someone who uses pulse rifles and snipers, I couldn't be more excited about 2.0!
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Bored. Muted.
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von scuzzgolem: 8/25/2015 5:11:46 PMIf by boring, you mean engaging your enemy with some intelligence and gunskill instead of just blinking into his face and holding down the trigger on your TLW, then yes it will be quite boring.
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2 AntwortenYou seem like a guy with two Hunters. YOUR PROFILE=BORING
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5 AntwortenSounds fun to me. You might actually have to hit someone more than twice to kill them
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1 Antworteneverybody will be using snipers now after 2.0 there will be a lot of cries for snipers to get nerfed