So most of you are okay with them making year one weapons obsolete to make us gribd for more because of the challenge, blah, blah... If there is taking, that invalidates the grinding required in the first part of the argument. A trades to B each for something the other doesn't have to eliminate the grind. Which is it? You can't have it both ways. Bungle is clearly saying, they want you to grind so you keep playing. Trading eliminates part of what they are trying to achieve.