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LEAVE THE GALLY ALONE! READ IF YOU AGREE!

(NOTE: [u]Skip to the bottom if you want the summed up version[/u]. Read my essay if you think the ghorn nerf is wrong. [b][u]PLEASE UPVOTE AND COMMENT[/u][/b] so Bungie will know how much the Gjallarhorn means to us the way it currently is. Bungie listens when the community comes together, so don't ignore this or be lazy.... let them know this is the one weapon that needs to be left alone. Millions of guardians will be devastated if it gets nerfed.... don't let that happen.... make sure to comment & upvote so our voices are heard! Bungie needs to know the community is against the ghorn nerf!! Stand together guardians! Tell them to leave it alone! Weapon balancing can be a good thing.... but in this case, this is the one weapon that should stay the way it is.... it's the unofficial hidden achievement/trophy that people use to define their time with Destiny.... it tells a story of how you played and the memories you had in a timeline before you got it, then, all stories and things that happened in a timeline after you got the gjallarhorn. It is truly a defining moment in the game and all guardians usually tell a story based on before and after they got it. An item that holds that much awe, reverence & esteem should be kept that way, and doing otherwise to it will only tear down the mythic status it has acquired over the past year! Remember Bungie, you wanted people to have great stories on how they obtained certain game items. This is the one item that defines all and has the best stories you said you wanted to inspire. [u]YOU[/u] are about to ruin that and take that away from everyone. Don't make that mistake on top of the countless mistakes you've already made through trial and error. You know this is something you shouldn't do.... listen to your community and leave it be!!) I understand it's a new year and a lot of things have to be rebalanced to make way for the new weapons and armor, but for the love of god Bungie, DO NOT touch the Ghorn!! If you feel the need to rebalance every last item from year one, you should start using common sense already and put up a wall between PvP and PvE weapons!! There's no need to favor crucible stats when PvE should have priority. Since you won't make PvE the priority, separate crucible from PvE so you don't ruin anymore of the weapons. Millions of guardians feel this way, but you keep making these bone-headed decisions (I really thought it was a mistake at first, but now it just seems like you're trolling everyone by constantly ruining the weapons we love) and it really needs to stop!! I love this game so much, yet you keep making decisions that tell me you enjoy hearing guardians suffer. I bet the majority of complaints (I assume no less than 90%) that occur for "Overpowered" weapons only happens AFTER you nerf a set of weapons based on people complaining about how unfair those said weapons ruin a lot of PvP matches. You need to stop doing this constant balance changing just because people get mad about the weapons in the crucible!! Auto rifles are a core weapon for ALL fps style games. It was great way back, then you destroyed it & said it was based off of specific data from an iron banner run. The fact was that you intentionally made an IB bounty that required 20 auto rifle head shots, which forced pretty much everyone to overuse auto rifles (suros, I'm looking at you). So of course when you posted that data way back and claimed auto rifles are way too overused in the banner, you had the data to back it up.... but the fact was, YOU created your own "high usage" data because of that IB bounty. Then you said that's why you had to rebalance, so other weapons could get a chance. Now you're doing it again, but on a larger scale! Now I find out the one sacred gun in the game is getting nerfed; the Gjallarhorn. This is a terrible idea and it will be a HUGE mistake!! The one weapon we all hold sacred will lose what makes it so special!! Honestly, it's the ONE weapon which guardians hold as a sacred item (I thought you even said at one point that it wouldn't be touched). It is a great piece of weaponry that needs NOTHING new in terms of balancing. All the great clutch moments during a raid or whatever that many people have stories about, can be traced to this god-gun at some point in every guardian's career. There is literally no reason whatsoever to touch anything on it. The fact that MANY people keep pushing on when all other things in this game become stale is because either the gally makes encounters fun, or it's still a milestone or an honorary achievement/trophy for the ones who don't yet have it. Nerfing the ghorn will effectively crush a lot of people's hopes. It sounds dumb, but it is very true. People who have grown tired of Destiny, look to the gally as their light at the end of the tunnel. You may think this is starting to sound like a joke, but the fact is, millions of people who have it cannot fathom a nerf, and the ones who still need it will feel angry that the one weapon they've been pushing for since last year won't be what is was. YOU'RE MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE BY NERFING THE GJALLARHORN!! Furthermore, there is no need for the people who only play story/raid missions to suffer because you think PvP is more important. PvP is basically the only thing you keep throwing at us that has replay value (since it has matchmaking and you still refuse to put it in on raids), so of course, that's going to be the most played endgame events. If the rewards were tweaked for raids and matchmaking was thrown in, it would go from 15% of the community playing them to 80%. I guarantee it. But the point is, you can save yourselves and prevent a huge fallout by either putting up a wall between PvP & PvE weapons, or you can just leave the ghorn alone with this rebalancing. You are literally going to step on a minefield of anger if you go through with this..... this is the one weapon people will go ballistic over if you continue down this path & ruin. The only way Bungie truly listens to the community instead of the bad internal ideas is when enough people voice their opinions and concerns. If enough people tell them to leave the Gjallarhorn alone, they will, but if everyone who reads this doesn't upvote and comment and make their concerns known, the ghorn will be nerfed and it won't be brought back to the way it was. If you love your jellyhorn, let Bungie know. If you don't have one yet and you bash it (but secretly want it), please don't be a fool.... swallow your pride and make it known that you won't stand for this after not getting it. People at Bungie think this is a good idea now, but when the REAL hate flows after the nerf, they'll realize then that they shouldn't of listened to the few internal voices that urged this nerf. This is the only chance we have to make our voices heard! Don't be lazy, don't ignore... swallow your pride, put away any false hate you may have if you don't have the ghorn yet.... let Bungie know the Ballerhorn is fine the way it is and it's a huge mistake to even think about rebalancing it. PLEASE UPVOTE AND COMMENT TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD! [b]tl;dr: Bungie, don't nerf the Gjallarhorn! If weapon balances are going to happen across the board, leave the Gjallarhorn alone. If you keep favoring weapon balances for crucible instead of PvE, you will upset a ton of guardians! Use common sense and put up a wall between PvP and PvE weapons. The Ghorn is basically the center of MANY guardians' focus. Ruin that and you'll push a lot of people over the edge who are still on the fence. If you'd put up a wall between PvP and PvE (like shotguns for example), you'd find EVERYONE would be a lot happier. MANY people still keep pushing on with Destiny when all other things in this game has become stale.... because either the gally makes encounters more fun, or it's still a milestone (or an honorary achievement/trophy) for the ones who don't yet have it. Destroy that idea, you destroy Destiny, and, the trust & hope a lot of people are trying hold on to. I could go on, but I promise you this; ruin the Gjallarhorn and you'll effectively ruin Destiny. Sounds crazy, but don't take my word for it Bungie..... create a poll and you'll hear it from the community.[/b]

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  • Nuh nerf plz

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  • It's upsetting. It is going to suck for the complainers who haven't gotten one yet when they finally do. Keep it the same and just have xur finally sell it for them. They will have ruined it themselves. The only thing that needed to happen was the auto rifle buff IMO.

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    • All that typing over a weapon? A weapon that will one day be brought up to date? I didn't even read your post lol

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    • Yeee

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      • Oh god here we go again read the fücking date of the ops post. Necro bemp screbs at it again

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      • [quote](NOTE: [u]Skip to the bottom if you want the summed up version[/u]. Read my essay if you think the ghorn nerf is wrong. [b][u]PLEASE UPVOTE AND COMMENT[/u][/b] so Bungie will know how much the Gjallarhorn means to us the way it currently is. Bungie listens when the community comes together, so don't ignore this or be lazy.... let them know this is the one weapon that needs to be left alone. Millions of guardians will be devastated if it gets nerfed.... don't let that happen.... make sure to comment & upvote so our voices are heard! Bungie needs to know the community is against the ghorn nerf!! Stand together guardians! Tell them to leave it alone! Weapon balancing can be a good thing.... but in this case, this is the one weapon that should stay the way it is.... it's the unofficial hidden achievement/trophy that people use to define their time with Destiny.... it tells a story of how you played and the memories you had in a timeline before you got it, then, all stories and things that happened in a timeline after you got the gjallarhorn. It is truly a defining moment in the game and all guardians usually tell a story based on before and after they got it. An item that holds that much awe, reverence & esteem should be kept that way, and doing otherwise to it will only tear down the mythic status it has acquired over the past year! Remember Bungie, you wanted people to have great stories on how they obtained certain game items. This is the one item that defines all and has the best stories you said you wanted to inspire. [u]YOU[/u] are about to ruin that and take that away from everyone. Don't make that mistake on top of the countless mistakes you've already made through trial and error. You know this is something you shouldn't do.... listen to your community and leave it be!!) I understand it's a new year and a lot of things have to be rebalanced to make way for the new weapons and armor, but for the love of god Bungie, DO NOT touch the Ghorn!! If you feel the need to rebalance every last item from year one, you should start using common sense already and put up a wall between PvP and PvE weapons!! There's no need to favor crucible stats when PvE should have priority. Since you won't make PvE the priority, separate crucible from PvE so you don't ruin anymore of the weapons. Millions of guardians feel this way, but you keep making these bone-headed decisions (I really thought it was a mistake at first, but now it just seems like you're trolling everyone by constantly ruining the weapons we love) and it really needs to stop!! I love this game so much, yet you keep making decisions that tell me you enjoy hearing guardians suffer. I bet the majority of complaints (I assume no less than 90%) that occur for "Overpowered" weapons only happens AFTER you nerf a set of weapons based on people complaining about how unfair those said weapons ruin a lot of PvP matches. You need to stop doing this constant balance changing just because people get mad about the weapons in the crucible!! Auto rifles are a core weapon for ALL fps style games. It was great way back, then you destroyed it & said it was based off of specific data from an iron banner run. The fact was that you intentionally made an IB bounty that required 20 auto rifle head shots, which forced pretty much everyone to overuse auto rifles (suros, I'm looking at you). So of course when you posted that data way back and claimed auto rifles are way too overused in the banner, you had the data to back it up.... but the fact was, YOU created your own "high usage" data because of that IB bounty. Then you said that's why you had to rebalance, so other weapons could get a chance. Now you're doing it again, but on a larger scale! Now I find out the one sacred gun in the game is getting nerfed; the Gjallarhorn. This is a terrible idea and it will be a HUGE mistake!! The one weapon we all hold sacred will lose what makes it so special!! Honestly, it's the ONE weapon which guardians hold as a sacred item (I thought you even said at one point that it wouldn't be touched). It is a great piece of weaponry that needs NOTHING new in terms of balancing. All the great clutch moments during a raid or whatever that many people have stories about, can be traced to this god-gun at some point in every guardian's career. There is literally no reason whatsoever to touch anything on it. The fact that MANY people keep pushing on when all other things in this game become stale is because either the gally makes encounters fun, or it's still a milestone or an honorary achievement/trophy for the ones who don't yet have it. Nerfing the ghorn will effectively crush a lot of people's hopes. It sounds dumb, but it is very true. People who have grown tired of Destiny, look to the gally as their light at the end of the tunnel. You may think this is starting to sound like a joke, but the fact is, millions of people who have it cannot fathom a nerf, and the ones who still need it will feel angry that the one weapon they've been pushing for since last year won't be what is was. YOU'RE MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE BY NERFING THE GJALLARHORN!! Furthermore, there is no need for the people who only play story/raid missions to suffer because you think PvP is more important. PvP is basically the only thing you keep throwing at us that has replay value (since it has matchmaking and you still refuse to put it in on raids), so of course, that's going to be the most played endgame events. If the rewards were tweaked for raids and matchmaking was thrown in, it would go from 15% of the community playing them to 80%. I guarantee it. But the point is, you can save yourselves and prevent a huge fallout by either putting up a wall between PvP & PvE weapons, or you can just leave the ghorn alone with this rebalancing. You are literally going to step on a minefield of anger if you go through with this..... this is the one weapon people will go ballistic over if you continue down this path & ruin. The only way Bungie truly listens to the community instead of the bad internal ideas is when enough people voice their opinions and concerns. If enough people tell them to leave the Gjallarhorn alone, they will, but if everyone who reads this doesn't upvote and comment and make their concerns known, the ghorn will be nerfed and it won't be brought back to the way it was. If you love your jellyhorn, let Bungie know. If you don't have one yet and you bash it (but secretly want it), please don't be a fool.... swallow your pride and make it known that you won't stand for this after not getting it. People at Bungie think this is a good idea now, but when the REAL hate flows after the nerf, they'll realize then that they shouldn't of listened to the few internal voices that urged this nerf. This is the only chance we have to make our voices heard! Don't be lazy, don't ignore... swallow your pride, put away any false hate you may have if you don't have the ghorn yet.... let Bungie know the Ballerhorn is fine the way it is and it's a huge mistake to even think about rebalancing it. PLEASE UPVOTE AND COMMENT TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD! [b]tl;dr: Bungie, don't nerf the Gjallarhorn! If weapon balances are going to happen across the board, leave the Gjallarhorn alone. If you keep favoring weapon balances for crucible instead of PvE, you will upset a ton of guardians! Use common sense and put up a wall between PvP and PvE weapons. The Ghorn is basically the center of MANY guardians' focus. Ruin that and you'll push a lot of people over the edge who are still on the fence. If you'd put up a wall between PvP and PvE (like shotguns for example), you'd find EVERYONE would be a lot happier. MANY people still keep pushing on with Destiny when all other things in this game has become stale.... because either the gally makes encounters more fun, or it's still a milestone (or an honorary achievement/trophy) for the ones who don't yet have it. Destroy that idea, you destroy Destiny, and, the trust & hope a lot of people are trying hold on to. I could go on, but I promise you this; ruin the Gjallarhorn and you'll effectively ruin Destiny. Sounds crazy, but don't take my word for it Bungie..... create a poll and you'll hear it from the community.[/b][/quote]

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        • I don't have a gjally but I'm am completely against the nerf because the logic is terrible. Here's my point if the people who complain about a weapon being to powerful are bad at this game or if they are not good with let's say the thorn or the last word and then bungie nerfs these particular guns and then said complainers play the game and are still not good what was solved? absolutely nothing except to piss off the people who have grinded to get these weapons. So all it does is punish the good players and then does nothing to elevate the bad players so everyone loses. Currently there is an even playing field and after the nerf it will still be a level playing field so nothing has been gained but god forbid we introduce logic into this. Signed someone who doesn't have a gjally but if I ever get 1 would prefer that it isn't ruined.

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        • The Bungie dev said in the interview that the reason they want to nerf G'horn is because they didn't intend for it to be a disqualifier for people to get invited to group activity. Well, jeez, no brainer, if that's your concern, sell it on Xur like you do every other non-Raid weapon (Raid = Word, Fang, etc.) Selling G'horn periodically would absolutely eradicate Bungie's concern without lobotomizing the unique abilities G'horn brings to content to provide other unique ways to get things done. G'horn is unique, just like Ice Breaker and others are unique. Don't lobotomize dimensions of gameplay when uniqueness can be preserved. Don't turn G'horn into just another Hunger of Crota but with Solar burn. I've spent countless hours both enjoying G'horn use, and in helping friends do the weekly reset content to acquire their G'horns. After months of helping on a weekly basis, two guys I help most had not gotten G'horn yet, until one of the two finally got one this week, to their immense pleasure. All of that work, months, you would destroy by lobotomizing the reward? Instead, you could Xur it, and instead even the guy(s) who have worked for months, would still feel that they did the work, and they finally got one. You guys are really missing the boat.

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