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6/8/2015 11:57:54 AM
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Nerfing Thorn Makes no Sense at all
A Lot of Peoples Are thinking that nerfing the Thorn would change the balancing of the Crucible. But thats just BS. If the Thorn gets nerfed everyone is Going to use the Last Word and the Whole whining is Going to Repeat itself. So bungie shouldnt nerf the Thorn, instead they should buff the other weapons. Like autorifles. What do you guys think?
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All exotic hand cannons need a range nerf.
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1 AntwortenI think you should pull your head out of your ass. Maybe look for a valid argument there too.
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5 AntwortenYou could buff the hundreds of weapons Thorn eclipses, bring them all up to its level, and then have CoD-style twitch-reflex gameplay... Or nerf Thorn, and have Destiny without an instant-win button.
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I really don't have time for this, can you just run some numbers with me? Thorn, Last Word, Mythoclast, Red Death. You see these four primaries more than most others in Crucible. 4 is a much smaller number than, say, 100. There are plentiful reasons why "buffing the rest" is a bad idea. But do the math, here. If they simply reduced the effectiveness of the 4 outliers and left the rest alone, would that not be the exact same thing as buffing the rest? Auto-rifles are decent at close range. By close range I mean Shotgun range, I'll agree they are underperforming as opposed to what they were at. Perhaps they got hit too hard with the nerf-bat in the first place, but they were far-outperforming every other weapon in the game, with little exception.
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You're right..nerf hand cannons. That's what they did to kill suros
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2 AntwortenYou do realize the original reasons behind nerfs like the vex and suros.......right? [spoiler]I'll tell you.....it's because "we do not believe crucible should be based around a singular weapon...."[/spoiler] So yeah.....
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I'm not big on crying nerf but in my opinion if changes are to be made it should be: - make auto rifles viable again (buff) - reduce the effective range of the exotic hand cannons (especially thorn and tlw) thereby making scouts viable (nerf/buff)
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Wait... Nerfing 1 weapon isn't the answer? Buffing 100 or so weapons is the answer? My interpretation of your logic: Nuke not OP, everything else just needs a buff.
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I like this ... Please go on ... I'm getting aroused.... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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as it is. most people are using guns that kill in 1 to 3 shots... buffing guns will turn the entire crucible into frikkin one in the chamber..
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If balance comes from buffing every other gun in the game to be on the same level then there is your problem. The gun's B.S hope it gets nerfed into the ground in PvP
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If these whines win and the thorn gets nerfed I'm gonna lose my shit, cause that meansTLW is next (which I could care less about) then the next target would be my precious Red Death that I just got and is in love with. I'll admit at first I used thorn, then last week I got the Hawkmoon and maxed it and now j have the red death which I love
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Thank you for thinking! It seems like everyone else thinks nerfing thorn will balance pvp. The same was said about suros. Nobody seems to have foresight anymore! Except you guardian. Keep your light safe.
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Bearbeitet von Hork3r: 6/9/2015 2:15:23 AMAfter thorn and tlw would be nerfed, there would be nothing left to nerf other than maybe hawkmoon on ps. Some people are saying red death would be next. Wrong, it's on par with other pulse rifles. Same cannot be said about thorn or tlw.
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Just make the DoT leave you with 1 hp. Thatll fix everything. You shouldnt be rewarded a kill for not hitting someone. Isnt that the whole point of skill? To outgun someone to death and not just shot twice and run away while theyre still alive with health and let the game kill them for you. That sounds like a crutch to me. I know its the exotic perk but youll still stop them from regening which is very important so its not like the perk will be useless.
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11 AntwortenThorn is an exotic for a reason. It's like saying the br is too powerful in halo and everyone has one. Everyone should honestly have thorn by now and new players should adapt to the play style then eventually get one.
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1 AntwortenThey just need to bring back auto rifles. Thats the only way noobs who cant get exotics(because they only pvp) can stand a chance
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I'm not a good PVP player and I wish people would just GET GOOD! Leave Thorn alone. No nerfing needed. Play more, get better. Simple.
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Bungie doesn't know what balance is. They over-buff and over-nerf everything they touch.
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No; I've played a lot of crucible before sounding off on this -- it's far too common because it's the most powerful and accurate hand gun in the game. This will change -- Bungie knows better than any of us, and they'll regress things if they stray too far from the mean. I don't know what the nerf should be -it could be big or small, I leave that to better minds -- but a change is necessary at this point.
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That's not how balancing works. Auto rifles need a buff I will admit that. Their ttk is by far the highest. But making thorn(and weapons with additional procs for that matter) balanced is what needs to happen.
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I just got done killing a lot of people using the last word in Iron banner. It really isn't as OP as Thorn.
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It needs no nerf.. just nerds to be locked from IB and ToO
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21 AntwortenBearbeitet von w1czr1923: 6/8/2015 8:34:25 PMHow many times does it have to be said. You can't just buff everything because the ttk would drop dramatically. There needs to be a complete balance overhaul. Not just one weapon archetype. Nerf thorn, fix last word perk, reduce handcannon range as a whole , buff auto rifles slightly or alter the way they work so they have some level of effectiveness , reduce shotgun range and remove shotpackage/ rangefinder perks to make fusion rifles more viable again, remove final round from snipers, and then play with the balance for scout rifles and pulse rifles to make the ttk a little in line with the new weapon changes. Changing one gun does change everything else up. That's why everything must be altered in order to fix the balance of crucible as a whole. Pve is pretty balanced though other rocket launchers besides ghorn should do more damage/ ghorn nerfed in order to even things out a bit. I do think fusion rifles need a significant buff in pve as well
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Your suggestion is even worse. What's buffing auto rifles going to do? Thorn will still be OP so nothing will change.
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At least it is only good at one range
