Without ward of dawn you can spec to generate orbs on melee kills with forcebarrier active as well as all heavy weapon kills. Ruin wings + HMG and a warlock stands to chance in a orb battle. It's as simple as that.
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Haven't seen it, so can't compare... But strikes I've been in since obsidian mind and bjj 20+ orbs picked up by my teammates easily each time.[spoiler]aka enough to decimate the strike[/spoiler]